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  • May 15, 2020
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    Nonamee

    Frank Is R&B to you?

    100%

  • May 15, 2020
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    zenereura

    100%

  • May 15, 2020
    Nonamee

    Like no doubt, that's just the genre pushing forward

  • CARMEN 💜
    May 15, 2020
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    deadacc

    tbh i feel like the main motivator is production costs

    why pay for producers and writers and studio musicians and whole string sections and s*** when u can whip up a spacey trap beat for free and the kids will eat that s*** up

    I mean there are good "spacey trap" beats lets not get close minded
    Production cost, yeah, but artist NOW have way more say in that
    Its optional tbh to go big, but that s*** got corny you gotta recontextualize the genre THE WEEKND
    strings and double tracked vocals s*** was mandated back then

  • May 15, 2020
    CARMEN

    I mean there are good "spacey trap" beats lets not get close minded
    Production cost, yeah, but artist NOW have way more say in that
    Its optional tbh to go big, but that s*** got corny you gotta recontextualize the genre THE WEEKND
    strings and double tracked vocals s*** was mandated back then

    Bangladesh too always brought crazy innovation and those hard drums, way underrated.

    People only talk about Timbaland and Pharrell cause thats all they know

  • CARMEN 💜
    May 15, 2020
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    zenereura

    Disagree so much about who was pushing the genre forward for me these were the guys doing it

    1. Polow Da Don (crazy hitting drums and synths)
    2. Eric Hudson (Flashing Lights etc.)
    3. Timbaland (Obvious)
    4. Neptunes & Pharrell Solo
    5. Ryan Leslie (no ones has made music like him)
    6. Tim & Bob (who the f*** has drums like them, or Asian samples)
    7. Pop & Oak (so much f***ing versatility)
    8. Carlos McKinney
    9. The-Dream with Tricky Stewart
    10. Danja (lowkey the goat of the 00s)
    11. S O U N D Z (wow what else to say a legend)
    12. StarGate (say what you want they had versatility and class)
    13. Dre & Vidal (brought that warm sound into contemporary R&B)
    14. Jim Jonsin (synths went HAM)

    nah Timbo and the Neptunes stand out the most from their contemporaries

    they changed the sonic landscape bro

    The Dream added atmosphere to the genre
    these other guys r flashes in the pan

    Those three are twice as influential, I haven't seen a polow da don production credit in years, timbo, pharell and chad, and the dream still active today. Their influence has carried over to the next gen so much they still working with artists pushing the s***

  • May 15, 2020
    CARMEN

    I mean there are good "spacey trap" beats lets not get close minded
    Production cost, yeah, but artist NOW have way more say in that
    Its optional tbh to go big, but that s*** got corny you gotta recontextualize the genre THE WEEKND
    strings and double tracked vocals s*** was mandated back then

    yea i agree w what ur saying i feel like its more so a issue with the industry as a whole

    its just harder to match the pop sensibilities of spacey trap beats with the harder to produce compositions @zenereura is talking about

  • May 15, 2020
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    CARMEN

    nah Timbo and the Neptunes stand out the most from their contemporaries

    they changed the sonic landscape bro

    The Dream added atmosphere to the genre
    these other guys r flashes in the pan

    Those three are twice as influential, I haven't seen a polow da don production credit in years, timbo, pharell and chad, and the dream still active today. Their influence has carried over to the next gen so much they still working with artists pushing the s***

    No, you really don't know how much time I put into looking into the credits of the producers

    I wrote the credits in iTunes to every single song I have and made playlists for every producer, had over 200 playlists.

    Timbaland and Pharrell get all the credit because the media hyped them, that's not what the music tells us at all.

    Polow da Don was just as influential and made amazing music

  • May 15, 2020
    CARMEN

    nah Timbo and the Neptunes stand out the most from their contemporaries

    they changed the sonic landscape bro

    The Dream added atmosphere to the genre
    these other guys r flashes in the pan

    Those three are twice as influential, I haven't seen a polow da don production credit in years, timbo, pharell and chad, and the dream still active today. Their influence has carried over to the next gen so much they still working with artists pushing the s***

    The-Dream wasn't even producing his s*** wtf u talking about

    it was Los da Mystro and Tricky nigga wtf u on

  • May 15, 2020
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    zenereura

    No, you really don't know how much time I put into looking into the credits of the producers

    I wrote the credits in iTunes to every single song I have and made playlists for every producer, had over 200 playlists.

    Timbaland and Pharrell get all the credit because the media hyped them, that's not what the music tells us at all.

    Polow da Don was just as influential and made amazing music

    just looked into Polow cuz i only knew him from his rap beats

    Frank wrote this song ?

  • May 15, 2020
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    Nigga J Lack made tracks on a another sonic planet and he gets no f***ing credit

  • May 15, 2020
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    deadacc

    just looked into Polow cuz i only knew him from his rap beats

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUuY0i3qowQ

    Frank wrote this song ?

    that's def not Frank singing bro

  • May 15, 2020
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    zenereura

    Nigga J Lack made tracks on a another sonic planet and he gets no f***ing credit

    post some links pls

  • CARMEN 💜
    May 15, 2020
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    all the producers u mentioned came after pharell and timbo bro, or were heavily inspired by them, they just shaped those sounds into their own things which was cool for a brief stint

  • May 15, 2020
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    deadacc

    post some links pls

  • May 15, 2020
    zenereura

    that's def not Frank singing bro

    it's pitched up but that's him im pretty sure

  • May 15, 2020
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    CARMEN

    all the producers u mentioned came after pharell and timbo bro, or were heavily inspired by them, they just shaped those sounds into their own things which was cool for a brief stint

    no nigga, you don't know

  • May 15, 2020

    when bugatti biebs came out with an entire R&B album that didn't get the recognition it deserved

    It dropped in 2013 but it was clear at that time (even before the trap soul wave) that R&B genre was dead in the mainstream. The question now is in what direction will R&B go once the trapsoul s*** dies out or will it become a dead genre.

  • May 15, 2020
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    Kelela & Solange out now.

  • CARMEN 💜
    May 15, 2020
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    zenereura

    no nigga, you don't know

    they followed the trends set by those two groups just as much as others, the same my happen today, but at least there is way more diversity and non commercialized s*** to spawn new voices

  • May 15, 2020
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    zenereura
    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3NAP79k444!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FADxR_aFPa4!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VBr9uQ-jPI

    the songs are cool but i dont see what ur saying w the prod tbh

    just some saws and plucks and s*** you could make this w omnisphere in like 30 min

  • May 15, 2020
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    CARMEN

    they followed the trends set by those two groups just as much as others, the same my happen today, but at least there is way more diversity and non commercialized s*** to spawn new voices

    lmfao no, you literally have no clue, I have talked to Polow directly before, these niggas were not looking to Pharrell or Timbaland, you have no clue.

    Timbaland took his sound from Danja too in the 00s, you wouldn't even know where to begin nigga.

  • CARMEN 💜
    May 15, 2020
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    deadacc

    the songs are cool but i dont see what ur saying w the prod tbh

    just some saws and plucks and s*** you could make this w omnisphere in like 30 min

    see exactly these producers r no f***ing different if not worse than a pharell or timbo, dream, storch at this time

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    CARMEN

    see exactly these producers r no f***ing different if not worse than a pharell or timbo, dream, storch at this time

    hahahahaha the-dream wasn't even producing at the time and Danja was doing all of Timbos beats.

    Shut up nigga and Scott Storch was doing cocaine and producing nothing, lmfao why even mention him nigga

  • CARMEN 💜
    May 15, 2020
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    zenereura

    lmfao no, you literally have no clue, I have talked to Polow directly before, these niggas were not looking to Pharrell or Timbaland, you have no clue.

    Timbaland took his sound from Danja too in the 00s, you wouldn't even know where to begin nigga.

    you've talked to Polow he just as salty as you?

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