I know @op is trolling but for the people that unironically believe this, listen to:
I find it’s when he raps where he seems to just be talking in code
I find it’s when he raps where he seems to just be talking in code
That’s very accurate
Travis Scott has received backlash over the lack of lyrical substance across his career and especially recently with the release of UTOPIA
However, man like Frank Ocean has been releasing music about nothing (Balls sticking to my jeans ???) for half a decade now but everyone seems to be okay with it
What makes Frank’s poor content acceptable ? Is it because he's mysterious ?
Frank ocean raps better than Travis Scott and its possible that u
a. are trolling (which means I took the bait, good job)
or
b. you're too dumb to decipher good bars
when I see threads like this I remember that my time on earth is limited and I can't be spending so much time on this site.
thanks OP
Please drop some Frank ocean quotables!
Get me a Persian rug where the center looks like Galaga
Its obvious Nights is about a relationship that isn’t working and and giving context into where his life was at the time of the relationship
“it’s obvious”
you’re proving the point of my initial post in here that his magic is giving the fans just enough to create whole fan fiction interpretations about super vague ass lines lol. It’s not a knock on him only a few people can do it lol
You could argue MF DOOM also did this to a lesser extent lol but he was much more skilled at carrying thru a narrative
if your fried attention span can handle it listen to dhl all the way through and tell me what you think the main theme is it's not hard to figure out for yourself it's not a puzzle..
Isn’t it convenient that you cant say what your interpretation is and instead insult me based off the assumption That I don’t have an interpretation of the song lol
It's basically verbal psychedelia if you're talking DHL, memories leading to memories leading to thoughts organically, using few words and glimpses of imagery to create a vibe, I think Travis can accomplish this sometimes, 'She thought it was the ocean, it's just a pool' is something you can almost imagine Frank coming up with, there's a whole scene painted with a great economy of words, but for the most part Travis's bars feel way less personal and lack Frank's hyper-specific life experience snapshot vibe
It also helps that Frank varies his subject matter much more and expresses actual emotions, Travis is so one-note emotionally that it's almost impressive
best explanation I’ve seen from the people “defending” him in here lol
Although I don’t see how we aren’t saying the same thing lol. There’s a lot of assuming and filling in the blanks needed for this. Definitely something he started with blonde and beyond cuz nostalgia ultra isn’t like this, it’s like a more refined version to where the lines are way less vague
“it’s obvious”
you’re proving the point of my initial post in here that his magic is giving the fans just enough to create whole fan fiction interpretations about super vague ass lines lol. It’s not a knock on him only a few people can do it lol
You could argue MF DOOM also did this to a lesser extent lol but he was much more skilled at carrying thru a narrative
Spend it when I get that
I ain't tryna keep you
Can't keep up a conversation
Can't nobody reach you
Why your eyes well up?
Did you call me from a seance?
You are from my past life
Hope you're doin' well, bruh
All my night, been ready for you all my night
Been waitin' on you all my night
I'll buzz you in, just let me know when you outside
All my night, you been missin' all my night
Still got some good nights memorized
And the look back's gettin' me right
Is it really fan fiction to say these lyrics are about a romantic partner? Or is it just called using context? Like those lyrics are pretty obviously about a partner
his music only became like that post-blonde fr
but i’m glad we’re mocking the travis niggas tho lmao
“it’s obvious”
you’re proving the point of my initial post in here that his magic is giving the fans just enough to create whole fan fiction interpretations about super vague ass lines lol. It’s not a knock on him only a few people can do it lol
You could argue MF DOOM also did this to a lesser extent lol but he was much more skilled at carrying thru a narrative
nights is vague ?
nights is vague ?
Like I get that Frank isn’t like a story teller but you still get a pretty general sense of what most of his songs are about to say he has no substance is crazy
"gets away with" it's just poetically inclined lyrics done very well. lucki and frank both deserve honest credit as writers for that
That s*** read 200 thousand I still know the rules but in silence I’ll speak the truth but the slimiest No rules but still a mafia
This is exactly what niggas mad at Travis Scott for on Utopia in a different font. Lol it’s just complete statements instead of s*** like “tonight we’ll find the vibe”
nights is vague ?
hit the lyrics button on Apple Music and it’s just a bunch of random ass lines with no linear narrative or thing he’s tryna convey lol. Which is cool. I think people are taking it as an insult rather than accepting that this is his “thing”. Again same with DOOM Lowkey lol
It’s fascinating the s*** that artists surround the actual lyricism with to where they can get away with this as “deep” or not lol
That s*** read 200 thousand I still know the rules but in silence I’ll speak the truth but the slimiest No rules but still a mafia
This is exactly what niggas mad at Travis Scott for on Utopia in a different font. Lol it’s just complete statements instead of s*** like “tonight we’ll find the vibe”
I don’t think Travis Scott or Frank Ocean are devoid of substance tbh
They just aren’t going to tell you what they’re talking about line by line and deviate from the topic of the song especially Travis
Think its a dumb complaint for both, but I get it a little more with Travis
hit the lyrics button on Apple Music and it’s just a bunch of random ass lines with no linear narrative or thing he’s tryna convey lol. Which is cool. I think people are taking it as an insult rather than accepting that this is his “thing”. Again same with DOOM Lowkey lol
It’s fascinating the s*** that artists surround the actual lyricism with to where they can get away with this as “deep” or not lol
As a song writer sometimes you write things that mean something to you specifically or relate to a specific thing in your life also so lines like that might not even be random but just personal references
Thats not even about Frank thats about artist in general