Lloyd and The-Dream both made better music than the Woeknd

JMSN slander

show me examples then

Tell me this isn’t exactly what ur asking for

I used to listen to JMSN heavy, but he is really overrated

My boy not even popular enough to be overrated

I think for the most part song structures have gone out the window .Most songs today are like some basic 4 line verse and predictable chorus to boot . Just hoping for the production to carry everything

man what lmao

lmfao

Like i said, already proved my point lol.

But f*** it.

They can't even sing these days man smh game all f***ed up

Singers aren’t singing beta cuck chit anymore.

I feel like not having social media saved a lot of 2000s r&b singers from having some of they raw unaltered studio sessions come out

Also @op tryna act like there wasn’t hella mid “warm” r&b as well. Some joints you dont even remember or would even wanna play cause of the unimpressive vocals or lyrics was just bad (sHe LiKeS tO gEt InTo cOnFroNtAtiOn

wItH Meeeeeeeeeeee)

Remember that one?

Nah it's still cuck s*** cause they singing about being heartbroken side niggas. Kinda lame s***...

Nah I do agree I wish subject matter was more expansive.

I do like R&B that sings about like, life s***. Not just a nigga or b**** (g. Neutral) every time y’know?

anderson paak
bruno mars
smino
some faiyaz
the internet
steve lacy
thundercat

Need some classics like these

We lost touch with god, that’s why the R&B so cold!

it's definitely a factor. lack of true producers who can guide sessions and arrange records. now a beat maker can just send a folder, they throw on a beat, freestyle some s*** and voila.

the producers like JDs, Puffs, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, Rich Harrisons, Irvs, etc. are dwindling. a lot of s*** is DIY now and based on "vibes" which is cool too. but it makes me appreciate artists like The-Dream and Anderson .Paak for giving that feeling.

because make it D A R K

Why do you say he’s overrated? I mean I wouldn’t say he’s super slept on or “underground” but I don’t think he’s that big enough to be overrated. But my definition could be wrong.

And What would say is “Real RnB” compared to JMSN? I like his music.. but Never compare him to anyone and if I do he’s leading the way in the lane of my white “ivory soul” acts lol

Need to hear a nigga really singing bout struggle on his Jaheim s***. This trap R&b s*** is cool but I remember back in the day they really pushed singing “thugs”

crazy cause that's what actual real R&B fans feel about Chris Brown lol.

@op thoughts on this