Carmen is Composed

2y

would you say your concern about the concern of other people being concerned about concerning things cancels out said concern?

RASIE

2y

The whole drag s*** is empty sensational media and political nonsense. It is not nearly as big of a deal as its made out to be. If it was then RuPaul wouldn't have just celebrated the 200th episode on drag race on their 3rd major cable network with a $200,000 cash prize with giant corporate sponsorships.

What started as a reaction towards drag queen book reading for children at libraries — a couple of which are admittedly definitely not okay and i genuinely cant tell if it was done by trolls, intelligence agents, or brainrot radlibs who actually think they are doing something good — has evolved into easy news media lay-ups and political campaign talking points about drag in general. And like 99% of media and political campaign topics, it will more likely than not go absolutely nowhere and is only being used so whatever group/person pushing them can maintain or consolidate power in office/media.

Just because articles and social media posts are saying this is something to be worried about doesn't mean it is. More often it means there's nothing to be worried about.

sonyatv

2y

red states are actively working on or introducing legislation to ban drag shows in public, some of them even implying that people would not be allowed to be publicly trans

Tennessee enacting a ban

It’s more than just sensationalism or trying to rally constituents

deadacc

2y

krishna post inbound

but before that the explanation is that cointelpro decimated the actual left in the united states which is where all these bourgeois concessions we have now come from. and with all bourgeois concessions they can just take them away at will once the revolutionary moment has passed.

RASIE

2y

OP said "I remember when same s***marriage was passed. Now it just feels dangerous." Thats why i stuck with gay people. Im also gay and i dont speak on behalf on trans people

I didnt prove anything or say that lack of collective action means lack oppression. I said that if people actually felt like they were in legitimate danger (in contrast to exaggerating feelings online because thats what screen life breeds) then they would probably be doing a whole lot more than complaining online about it endlessly or staging pointless protests that get 20 minutes of media coverage and are instantly forgotten because everyone went home to complain more online

The rest of your post is concern posting that causes brainrot

sonyatv

2y

red states are actively working on or introducing legislation to ban drag shows in public, some of them even implying that people would not be allowed to be publicly trans

Tennessee enacting a ban

It’s more than just sensationalism or trying to rally constituents

fun guy

2y

if people actually felt like they were in legitimate danger (in contrast to exaggerating feelings online because thats what screen life breeds) then they would probably be doing a whole lot more than complaining online about it endlessly or staging pointless protests that get 20 minutes of media coverage and are instantly forgotten because everyone went home to complain more online

I'm pretty sure trans people are doing a lot more than s***posting online and "staging pointless protests". is how much time the media spends on an issue indicative of its merit? you're also acting like meaningful organization is incompatible with spending time online. just a braindead and moronic argument overall, even if you're strictly talking about gay people

not sure how you got "concern posting" from me saying trans people face vitriol and that public opinion can change which seems really obvious given the tendency of ruling class to exacerbate differences to prevent unification of the masses along class lines

"oppression doesnt exist dude its just the internet get off the internet" f***ing dumbass lmao

Glentothe

2y

Because the trans community has hijacked the movement and are- probably inadvertently, alienating people to the push for equality because of how over the top and in your face they are about their gender identity when us non-bigoted people couldn’t care less about their gender. This is just an observation as the community doesn’t reflect me, I’m all for people living how they want to live. A couple of my gay friends have said that they have observed trans groups trying to exclude LGB people from marches and parades as well which goes entirely against the movement which is about inclusion and equality. I think a lot of the trans lobby manifests itself as anger which is often misdirected.

Glentothe

2y

Because the trans community has hijacked the movement and are- probably inadvertently, alienating people to the push for equality because of how over the top and in your face they are about their gender identity when us non-bigoted people couldn’t care less about their gender. This is just an observation as the community doesn’t reflect me, I’m all for people living how they want to live. A couple of my gay friends have said that they have observed trans groups trying to exclude LGB people from marches and parades as well which goes entirely against the movement which is about inclusion and equality. I think a lot of the trans lobby manifests itself as anger which is often misdirected.

Glentothe

2y

Because the trans community has hijacked the movement and are- probably inadvertently, alienating people to the push for equality because of how over the top and in your face they are about their gender identity when us non-bigoted people couldn’t care less about their gender. This is just an observation as the community doesn’t reflect me, I’m all for people living how they want to live. A couple of my gay friends have said that they have observed trans groups trying to exclude LGB people from marches and parades as well which goes entirely against the movement which is about inclusion and equality. I think a lot of the trans lobby manifests itself as anger which is often misdirected.

Glentothe

2y

^ see the above is the problem, you can’t talk about your own observations and experiences without getting this s*** in response; which is ironic as the LGBTQ movement is about respecting peoples identities and experiences. I am well aware of how the media bias is demonising trans people I can see it in the rag newspapers here every week, but when you’ve got people shouting transphobe or throwing abuse at people because they may of accidentally misgendered people either online or in person it plays into the hands of right wing bigoted f***s. Trans people want to be treated fairly and how they identify as but their obsession with their own gender is not felt by everyone else and if I or anyone else who isn’t an intolerant f*** accidentally misgendered someone in a store or anywhere else it would be a mistake and I’d apologise the problem is it doesn’t stop there though. The key thing here is that you can 100% support trans people AND critique some of the behaviour the two things aren’t mutually exclusive but so many people forget that. “It didn’t happen” okay sure buddy

Glentothe

2y

Because the trans community has hijacked the movement and are- probably inadvertently, alienating people to the push for equality because of how over the top and in your face they are about their gender identity when us non-bigoted people couldn’t care less about their gender. This is just an observation as the community doesn’t reflect me, I’m all for people living how they want to live. A couple of my gay friends have said that they have observed trans groups trying to exclude LGB people from marches and parades as well which goes entirely against the movement which is about inclusion and equality. I think a lot of the trans lobby manifests itself as anger which is often misdirected.

Glentothe

2y

Because the trans community has hijacked the movement and are- probably inadvertently, alienating people to the push for equality because of how over the top and in your face they are about their gender identity when us non-bigoted people couldn’t care less about their gender. This is just an observation as the community doesn’t reflect me, I’m all for people living how they want to live. A couple of my gay friends have said that they have observed trans groups trying to exclude LGB people from marches and parades as well which goes entirely against the movement which is about inclusion and equality. I think a lot of the trans lobby manifests itself as anger which is often misdirected.

Glentothe

2y

Knew I shouldn’t of come ITT you can’t speak on anything trans it’s easier to try and reason with flat earthers.

Glentothe

2y

Knew I shouldn’t of come ITT you can’t speak on anything trans it’s easier to try and reason with flat earthers.

Q3D

2y

Your whole point is nonsense of course nobody's gonna try and reason with it you talk about playing into right wing rethoric well guess what that's exactly what you're doing by saying people don't care about queer topics because of "trans people being too angry"

Glentothe

2y

^ see the above is the problem, you can’t talk about your own observations and experiences without getting this s*** in response; which is ironic as the LGBTQ movement is about respecting peoples identities and experiences. I am well aware of how the media bias is demonising trans people I can see it in the rag newspapers here every week, but when you’ve got people shouting transphobe or throwing abuse at people because they may of accidentally misgendered people either online or in person it plays into the hands of right wing bigoted f***s. Trans people want to be treated fairly and how they identify as but their obsession with their own gender is not felt by everyone else and if I or anyone else who isn’t an intolerant f*** accidentally misgendered someone in a store or anywhere else it would be a mistake and I’d apologise the problem is it doesn’t stop there though. The key thing here is that you can 100% support trans people AND critique some of the behaviour the two things aren’t mutually exclusive but so many people forget that. “It didn’t happen” okay sure buddy