Anybody can get a hit in this era with TikTok or simply a right collab, but as far as him actually being a relevant artist again and having public anticipation for an album that's probably never happening again.

“ Wayne's rapping is as steady as it's ever been,”

Not sure I agree with this

His delivery isn’t really good anymore

You haven't seen Superbad, Easy A or the 2010's Spiderman movies? lol

I think, at some point, we gotta realize that rappers can't stay hot forever.

I'd rather have Wayne drop a quality lyrical album that "flops" than a mid/bloated/garbage one that breaks streaming records and makes phony casuals online give him props cause he's doing numbers but will trash him as soon as his next project "flops." (That actually happened from C5 to Funeral too).

I remember seeing some niggas on here clowning Nas's sales too or anticipating that Hov's next album will flop. Why are some of ya'll expecting the OG's to do huge numbers or make Tik Tok hits in 2023/2024 lol?

S*** I forgot about Superbad. Haven’t seen that in a decade. Ok that’s the only one, I never saw Easy A & 2010’s SpiderMan films were after my time, I grew up on Toby ones

Edit I know we the same age but the Tony ones hold special place in my heart lol

"I think, at some point, we gotta realize that rappers can't stay hot forever."

This gonna be a huge talking point soon as we see some currently huge artists slowly do less and less. But its true it just happens with everything. Even other genres.

Haha fair enough. That's why it was goat when Toby returned in No Way Home (2021)

You say this like Drake is still the hit making machine he used to be lol

f*** I forgot about that. Damn. That makes me wanna watch them now just so I can see that was No Way home a great movie as a whole, besides the nostalgia factor?

Widely considered the best Spiderman movie at the time of it's release

Yup.

I noticed that even FATD was a steep decline from CLB. 3 months later and FATD is only certified in 1 country outside the U.S.(Silver in the UK).

By contrast, Utopia is certified in 7 countries outside the U.S.

Every rapper will hit their decline at some point.

The question is, do we hold that against them, or do we learn to value the music over the "hotness."

That's lowkey why I'm glad Nas is one of my faves cause casual d***riders generally avoid Nas like a plague which allows him to make the type of music he wants without all the bloat and pandering.

No offense but you just sound like a hipster that hates popular music. I get your point about not only bumping what's poppin off atm but you're trying too hard

No

Not really. My top 10 rappers are all mainstream acts outside Ghostface.

I'm just talking about allowing rappers to fall off commercially past a certain age without holding it against them.

I don't need C6 to be "hot" or to have Tik Tok hits to enjoy it. I just need Wayne to sound hungry and have solid beat selection and song structure.

That's all I was saying. Maybe I worded it wrong.

With the death of radio and music videos this is deffo the case.

Basically since covid.

If he died in 2007 he’d be on Pac and BIG levels of revered

Him reaching for commercial success doesn’t really guarantee commercial success either tho lol

maybe if og c3 dropped first.

I hate using this song but skeeyee , fukumean, I wish I knew you wanted me, Flo milli ron arrest remix, I wanna say doja had one recently but can’t remember

Basically the hits are all the songs Wayne would have to touch if he was doing a Drought or Dedication tape rn

So we can’t do that and act like it’s just impossible lol

Real

I be rearranging those sessions into albums and it’s like 2-3 classics in there

Need the Drake stimulus

Pandemic also hit right after the album was released

he wasn't mainstream yet like pop mainstream

I agree, his vocal chain has been f***ed after 2015 and his rap style doesn't fit the double time 130+ bpm beats that most rappers these days rap on, that proposed Hitboy project would revitalize Wayne for sure