After listening back man I really think Cole took a misstep in dropping that. All Kendrick said was he’s the man he didn’t even take shots at them. Like wtf was he supposed to say? Jerk eachother off as the big three?

Took shots at Drake if anything

reach.

but even if that is true then it just makes the diss even weaker

We still in round 1 lol

Plus it's round 2 if we counting First person shooter which Kendrick is

Kdot has to respond by Friday. You can't hibernate for 3years after dropping that wackass album, take shots at cole and drake, and now go back into hibernation. Kdot never been in a real battle but he in 1 now. Theirs a few angles I think kdot can go from that would work in a response but we have to wait and see

Both disses not that amazing but if had to pick a winner then this round easily to Kendrick..

Who determined his W?

Kendrick & Future songs seems it will be the one with a bigger impact but both he and Cole taking soft shots at each other so far. Once/if it heats up we can determine a winner

The first part of his verse is directed at Cole tho

What’d he say?

To be fair it was a lot of niggas

also a lot of those nigga really be rapping

black women win every time you should know this

wtf Cole & Kendrick really could say to her

🚨 🚨 Ok jokes & pettiness aside heres my real response/feelings:

Just thought since Cole is now claiming TPAB is weak showing hes a snake, no wonder Dot dissed him "out of nowhere".

Some behind the scenes s*** probably and bro a whole ass hoe.

He either a snake & been two faced for at least almost 10 years (tpab 2015), or lying in his diss song about TPAB just to have a made up point to drum up clout and fit the rhyme scheme - either way regardless of the quality of the diss he exposed himself which is crazy & no wonder Kendrick hasnt been hanging around him the last 5 or so years.

And that snake type s*** personally rubs me the wrong way as a person when Cole acted like he was basically his brother, but now all the sudden you think he's whack outside of one album? Lol ok bro sure dawg.

I told yall during covid Kendrick dont give af about them two and hes never spoke on Cole or Drake publically since hes been gone and came back - the phone call is only one way, from Cole & Drake

And sidenote: Cole selling less than Nicki Minaj bro aint top 3 of anything - and bro has a Drake stimulus and the collab Drake tour and the civil war hype yet still flopping.

His new aint cracking 200k and his old s*** of the last few years have barely cracked 200k, iirc his last major album was the Folding Clothes selling dope one which is why his MMBS diss falls flat as well.

Yeah diss song is whach should have stuck to just barring up like nas did to Jay Z, instead of trying to Jay Z a Jay Z - Nas knew that, because any diss to Jay at the time about his sales or reputation would be dissing himself because Jay was on top and eclipse nas in that context so he knew he couldnt go that route and it ended up better for him. And the route Cole went made it personal now too.

People act like Kendrick "flops" (on ktt2) and Cole is beloved when really its the opposite, the literal numbers of the other projects and his new s*** fw predictions. Kendrick has always outsold Cole 9 times out of 10 lol. The only real outlier is FHD2014 (which is classic).

🚨 🚨 Also on a personal feelings note:

His diss flopped for me outside of numbers & narratives because a lot of it was either backtracking or being wishy washy. He literally disses him then goes back to bigging him multiple times. That has always been one of my main issues with Cole and why hes my least fav of the big 3 and who i listen to the least. He can never decide what Rapper he wants to be meanwhile when he does finally put himself out there he always backtracks (ex. Firing Squad and many others).

And what also always rubbed me wrong about him is how he always throws himself a self pity party. Ex. Let Nas Down, him whining about his insecurities and talks about the big 3 which leads to Drake hyping him up on stage and sneak dissing Kendrick. And that other song he dropped like a year ago, Middle Child iirc, where he feels inadequate compared to Drake and Kendrick. He is always fragile & never confident while being a baby that also makes things awkward for fans, other celebrities/artists & makes him seem weak as hell.

But back to the diss. Aside from him dissing Kendrick that also disses himself because he's even worst in the critiques hes making (and told on himself that hes been lying & fake) is that the diss is basic boring A-B flows, has corny s*** like literally mentioning memes & it has no edge.

Also, viral s*** on youtube and twitter have been saying Coles diss is weak. Only people that really think its really something are those that already dislike Kendrick. And they will probably try to change the narrative just like people that already dislike Kendrick they tried with Control.

I love Born Sinner, FHD2014 & especially the Truly Yours EP Series.

If kendrick released 7MD the conversation would be so different, why can't wr accept Cole didn't really do anything and see what comes next

It's a lot of little subliminals if you pay attention to Cole's verse and some songs he's released (Kendrick won't say his name but its definitely aimed at him)

Compare their verses from FPS and Like That. Cole talks about turning your song to a funeral and mentions the big three saying he's U N O. Kendrick brings up coughing but it's a play on words as it's also coffin. Because he takes Cole's verse as talking recklessly and then flips UNO into D O T and mentions money power and respect. Towards the end he mentions STICK and PTSD the titles of J Cole songs

First-person shooter mode, we turnin' your song to a funeral
To them niggas that say they wan' off us, you better be talkin' 'bout workin' in cubicles
Yeah, them boys had it locked, but I knew the code
Lot of niggas debatin' my numeral
Not the three, not the two, I'm the U-N-O
Yeah
Numero U-N-O

These niggas talkin' out of they necks
Don't pull no coffin out of your mouth, I'm way too paranoid for a threat
Ayy-ayy, let's get it, bro
D-O-T, the money, power, respect
The last one is better
Say, it's a lot of goofies with a check
I mean, ah, I hope them sentiments symbolic
Ah, my temperament bipolar, I choose violence?
Okay, let's get it up, it's time for him to prove that he's a problem*
Niggas clickin' up, but cannot be legit, no 40 Water, tell 'em
Ah, yeah, huh, yeah, get up with me
Fuck sneak dissin', first-person shooter, I hope they came with three switches
I crash out like, "Fuck rap," diss Melle Mel if I had to
Got 2TEEZ with me, I'm snatchin' chains and burnin' tattoos, it's up
Lost too many soldiers not to play it safe
If he walk around with that stick, it ain't André 3K
Think I won't drop the location? I still got PTSD
Motherfuck the big three, nigga, it's just big me
Nigga, bum

You claiming to not be a Drake stan consistently is the dumbest f***ing gimmick i have seen on this site in 10 years

Gaslighting me into being a Drake stan is this site's dumbest gimmick for the past 10 years now. I don't stan anyone let alone another grown man

I don’t think that was enough to merit a full discography review in a diss track… I mean the beef is there but does it even sizzle? That is the question at hand

Bait thread

My son been keeping his foot on Cole's neck.

Keeping it real, though, Cole putting down TPAB and making it seem like people fell off Kendrick is hilariously ironic.

MMTBS outsold Off Season despite Off Season being more commercial sounding.

If Fall Off doesn't sell well despite his claims of Kendrick losing the people, it ain't going to be a good look for Cole.

It's going to give the same vibes as Future back in 2013 claiming Nothing Was The Same was soulless compared to his upcoming album (Honest) and, now, we see which album has a stronger legacy lol.