thats what got me interested in her because that song is still so special to me

Song will always be in my rotation tbh, but crazy that she did it. She def one of the best of this new gen

Now I know why I love the Christopher walking beat

Christopher Walking prob my fave Pop song too

Had no idea she produced Christopher Walking. She's goated

Company has 4 credited producers though the drake one

Southside definitely does through cycles on if he’s making good beats or not

travis did minimal stuff, ritter provided melodies

no clue what 88 did

I always thought the 2 beats were produced by 2 producers each considering the song started as a Travis solo which I’m assuming is just the ending

revisiting this

Pierre better, has made more slappers, and is more influential

Decent thread though. Wondagurl is top 5 of this generations producers

Do you think it would be unreasonable to put Oogie Mane in there? Tbh he'd be in mine

Oogie is a great pick, best producer out of Workin On Dying

if his beats didn’t devolve into the generic sounds he has today i’d agree

his tread era cemented him in the top 10 tho

What are your thoughts on the fact that Pierre is about 100x more influential than Wondagurl?

Doesn’t make him the best producer

His style is easy to copy because it’s literally a distinct drum kit and pattern laid over a short, catchy melody loop. Obviously everyone after Pierre isn’t as talented because Pierre almost always makes his own melodies and has evolved as an artist over time, but there’s factors that aid his influence while also being an evidence of his inferiority as a producer in terms of quality when u compare him to wonda

who?

Technical isnt always better though

When it comes to good production its not really about x drum loops or if the style is easy to copy or not... it's about making hits

Pierre simplified and mastered the return to minimalism in hip hop production. His approach changed the game, no matter how simple or easy to copy

good production isn’t about making hits you gonna say Nic Nac is better than The Alchemist or Madlib for having a #1 rap hit when they don’t

I don’t want to entertain the rest of what you said

When i say hits I'm not talkin billboard sales