May 10, 2023great read, don’t have much to add here. rap will never truly ‘die’ but I do wish the next trailblazer would hurry up and make his presence known already lol
drake has said he has no intentions of stopping yet but i bet even he’s prolly saying “damn none of y’all wanna take the crown from me?
” in the back of his mind
May 10, 2023·1 replyIt’s dead but we all agree on is that it needs a big shift or else this s*** just gonna crash and not be number 1 anymore and I hate to say it Pop will take over lol s*** I would take Rock over pop any day
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fun guygood read @op
Thank you! I appreciate that
May 10, 2023·1 replySellIt’s dead but we all agree on is that it needs a big shift or else this s*** just gonna crash and not be number 1 anymore and I hate to say it Pop will take over lol s*** I would take Rock over pop any day
music industry issue not the genre
May 10, 2023nice read don’t got any thoughts on what u said rn but it got me wondering if the current evolution of rap is giving way to something new that isn’t rap per say but at the same time killing itself
it can also just be a weak period imo that rap is going through
May 10, 2023·1 replyThis might be nit picky @op but you seem to be using rap in place of hip hop in a lot of this discourse.
That being said, many very excellent points made.
- May 10, 2023·1 replyDAVlDP
I just feel so far removed from whatever is popular at this point and the stuff that I do try to listen to just sounds bad. I want to branch out to find some new underground rappers who still rap primarily with bars and s*** but it seems like even nobody in the underground is doing that stuff anymore.
and Im not just saying this to be dismissive or anything but over commercialization of this genre really screwed up the priorities. Like a decade ago we had Kendrick, Drake, and Cole all on the charts all representing kind of a different pathway of this genre... now we got who? What are the priorities of these new generation guys? It seems like the music isnt even the focus of this genre anymore and its just all branding and visuals. Plus not to mention all of the beefs on social media and clout chasing plus these stupid attention seeking gimmicks. like I'm almost a 30 year old man I dont care about hiphop social media pages promoting artists with stupid viral stuff like "_ ex exposes him as being a freak in the sheets!". This stuff is just childish nonsense to me lol where's the good music? where's the artistry? and most importantly where are the older generations collaborating with the younger guys? Like off the top of my head I can only think of a few of these new generation guys (like NLE Choppa) who actually collab with legends.
and you know the bar is so low when Im bringing up NLE Choppa of all people... I dont even think I can name 10 of these new era guys off the top of my head either lol this isn't even a diss or anger, (beause most of my past angry rant posts were just trolling) I'm actually confused as to what is going on with this genre at this point... it just feels like the music is a second thought 
Trippie redd has songs either Drake, Busta rhymes, lil Wayne, the game, Ghostface, currensy
- May 10, 2023ABCDEF
This might be nit picky @op but you seem to be using rap in place of hip hop in a lot of this discourse.
That being said, many very excellent points made.
I don’t think it’s nit picky, I appreciate it
I thought my problem would be using rap instead of rappers tbh. I’ve got to think some more about why I feel this way, but when I was writing the post I was operating under the idea that hip hop is a genre subsect within the form of rapping. Maybe I don’t agree with myself fully though
the tautology of rap/hip hop is really interesting regardless and worthy of mulling over, hm - May 10, 2023Thizzer
Trippie redd has songs either Drake, Busta rhymes, lil Wayne, the game, Ghostface, currensy
I wouldnt even consider Trippie the "new gen" though. hes been here since what? like 2017?
May 10, 2023DAVlDPI just feel so far removed from whatever is popular at this point and the stuff that I do try to listen to just sounds bad. I want to branch out to find some new underground rappers who still rap primarily with bars and s*** but it seems like even nobody in the underground is doing that stuff anymore.
and Im not just saying this to be dismissive or anything but over commercialization of this genre really screwed up the priorities. Like a decade ago we had Kendrick, Drake, and Cole all on the charts all representing kind of a different pathway of this genre... now we got who? What are the priorities of these new generation guys? It seems like the music isnt even the focus of this genre anymore and its just all branding and visuals. Plus not to mention all of the beefs on social media and clout chasing plus these stupid attention seeking gimmicks. like I'm almost a 30 year old man I dont care about hiphop social media pages promoting artists with stupid viral stuff like "_ ex exposes him as being a freak in the sheets!". This stuff is just childish nonsense to me lol where's the good music? where's the artistry? and most importantly where are the older generations collaborating with the younger guys? Like off the top of my head I can only think of a few of these new generation guys (like NLE Choppa) who actually collab with legends. and you know the bar is so low when Im bringing up NLE Choppa of all people... I dont even think I can name 10 of these new era guys off the top of my head either lol this isn't even a diss or anger, (beause most of my past angry rant posts were just trolling) I'm actually confused as to what is going on with this genre at this point... it just feels like the music is a second thought Last time I wholly enjoyed the new crop of artists was maybe in 2016-18 or so, ever since then it’s just been an artist here or there
- May 10, 2023Kurt Fiala CPA
From my understanding rap I just a blip in the timeline of culture it's meant to die and look forward to what's next
- May 10, 2023
Worldpremiere_Literally though ngl I'm on this type of s*** rn. F*** how corny it may be but I love rap and it's just getting started there's no way this s*** is dying
- May 10, 2023
rap is only dead if you only listen to the genre for the social metrics of doing so
- May 10, 2023DiamondsFlooded
music industry issue not the genre
Both are the issue
proper 🔩May 10, 2023chide
May 10, 2023·2 repliesi think the key to the vibe shift is making the distinction that rapping is a technical ability and hip hop is a genre. i think once we accept the sub genres that came out of what we consider to be core / root of hip hop are their own genres now, we will enter a better space
i don’t think there’s anyway rap could ever die, it’s such a human ability, and intertwined with how we tell stories. it’s like the idea that singing or songwriting will die. a gift like that could never ever just dissappear. the styles of rapping we once understood to be the end all be all, will always change but i think rapping is as integral to the human experience as much as reading a good book is imo 🤷🏾♂️
BLACK ☭May 10, 2023ong
- proper 🔩May 10, 2023·3 replies
this what reading this while listening to rap music feels like
May 10, 2023See this is what happens when rap's overcrowded with bums
Hope the hour is long when I'm rolling out with your tongue
The man above is my guide
You know the power is strong
All you menacing freaks are only in it for cheese
And the mass control limit was breached, f-ck hip-hop- BLACK ☭May 10, 2023
this is why i wish rap never woulda became this mainstream and palatable to yt people. we wouldn't be having these conversations otherwise
- proper 🔩May 10, 2023
All rap is poetry but not all poetry is rap. Why? In the same way that all televisions are technically radios but not all radios are televisions.
May 10, 2023·editedI dont subscribe to the whole immaterial 'perfect form' part of this text but yeah just keep listening to the music that you want to see last, regardless of corporate gears either actively grinding on it or moving on to some other genre to squeeze profits out of. realistically thats prob the only 'convenient' way to keep this thing going from the (limited) consumer position
- proper 🔩May 10, 2023babylon sherm
If the replies end here, it’s my most successful thread yet
