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    Kanye gets a lot of credit for stuff that he doesn't do. But he also doesn't get enough credit for stuff that he does do.

    For instance, people really pit up him as the greatest solo producer of all time, not considering the fact that he has a whole team around him including Mike Dean working on the final product for all of his songs. Guys like Dre and Timbaland don't operate that way. Kanye is still a master at finding the perfect sample, but everything he's done since 2006 has been a collab effort. Look at the credits for KSG - Kanye usually gets credit for producing "Reborn" when he didn't actually contribute anything to that song's sound. He just gets the credit because it's Kanye.

    On the other hand, people don't give Kanye enough credit for being the savvy business guy that he is. They think that just because he's crazy on Twitter that he's actually an idiot. Kanye is just as much of a "businessman" as Jay Z (if not more) but people will never look at him that way because of how he behaves in public. There are ppl out there who really think Kanye became a billionaire by accident

  • Feb 8, 2021
    WOOPDEYSCOOP

    Keep

    keep what

  • Feb 9, 2021
    repent

    the one indisputably correct one is Yandhi/JiK being made by Ant

    and ironically no one mentions it

    Absolutely not, none of Ant's writing made it to JIK it was just his features on Everything We Need and Water, and him being part of the background vocals on Selah
    he was just unlucky (or lucky depending how you look at it) that his demos leaked and not that of the countless other people that recorded verses over the same beats that just like Ant's were never used
    Victory Boyd did more writing for Ye on JIK than anyone else

  • Feb 9, 2021

    that he aint a goat

  • Feb 9, 2021

    that he really scored 106 points against a wheelchair basketball team

  • Feb 9, 2021
    darkestfantasy

    Kanye gets a lot of credit for stuff that he doesn't do. But he also doesn't get enough credit for stuff that he does do.

    For instance, people really pit up him as the greatest solo producer of all time, not considering the fact that he has a whole team around him including Mike Dean working on the final product for all of his songs. Guys like Dre and Timbaland don't operate that way. Kanye is still a master at finding the perfect sample, but everything he's done since 2006 has been a collab effort. Look at the credits for KSG - Kanye usually gets credit for producing "Reborn" when he didn't actually contribute anything to that song's sound. He just gets the credit because it's Kanye.

    On the other hand, people don't give Kanye enough credit for being the savvy business guy that he is. They think that just because he's crazy on Twitter that he's actually an idiot. Kanye is just as much of a "businessman" as Jay Z (if not more) but people will never look at him that way because of how he behaves in public. There are ppl out there who really think Kanye became a billionaire by accident

    Fam wtf are you talking about in that second sentence, you named two legendary producers that specifically both operate that way

    early on Timbaland and Dre were solo producers like Ye was early on too, but Timbo's (arguably) most proliffic and revered period as a producer was in the mid 2000s and pretty much all those iconic tracks other producers in his team like Danja or J-Roc were also credited on. Today he has a new team he works with too that are credited on all the new songs he produces

    Dre (besides often being accused of having ghost producers like Daz) had Mel-Man (on every 2001 track), Scott Storch, Mike Elizondo, Mark Batson

    none of the legendary producers do it by themself, they don't enter the studio in 2021 without a team around them

    Ye's most iconic period as a producer for other rappers was when he was doing it all by himself too

  • Feb 9, 2021
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    darkestfantasy

    Kanye gets a lot of credit for stuff that he doesn't do. But he also doesn't get enough credit for stuff that he does do.

    For instance, people really pit up him as the greatest solo producer of all time, not considering the fact that he has a whole team around him including Mike Dean working on the final product for all of his songs. Guys like Dre and Timbaland don't operate that way. Kanye is still a master at finding the perfect sample, but everything he's done since 2006 has been a collab effort. Look at the credits for KSG - Kanye usually gets credit for producing "Reborn" when he didn't actually contribute anything to that song's sound. He just gets the credit because it's Kanye.

    On the other hand, people don't give Kanye enough credit for being the savvy business guy that he is. They think that just because he's crazy on Twitter that he's actually an idiot. Kanye is just as much of a "businessman" as Jay Z (if not more) but people will never look at him that way because of how he behaves in public. There are ppl out there who really think Kanye became a billionaire by accident

    He does not have any production credit on reborn tbh

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    BBBBBound 2

    He does not have any production credit on reborn tbh

    that and Cudi Montage were both Cudi songs that Kanye put a verse on

  • Feb 9, 2021
    yesac

    that and Cudi Montage were both Cudi songs that Kanye put a verse on

    Yep and 4th dimension & Feel the love sound the most Kanye

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    darkestfantasy

    Kanye gets a lot of credit for stuff that he doesn't do. But he also doesn't get enough credit for stuff that he does do.

    For instance, people really pit up him as the greatest solo producer of all time, not considering the fact that he has a whole team around him including Mike Dean working on the final product for all of his songs. Guys like Dre and Timbaland don't operate that way. Kanye is still a master at finding the perfect sample, but everything he's done since 2006 has been a collab effort. Look at the credits for KSG - Kanye usually gets credit for producing "Reborn" when he didn't actually contribute anything to that song's sound. He just gets the credit because it's Kanye.

    On the other hand, people don't give Kanye enough credit for being the savvy business guy that he is. They think that just because he's crazy on Twitter that he's actually an idiot. Kanye is just as much of a "businessman" as Jay Z (if not more) but people will never look at him that way because of how he behaves in public. There are ppl out there who really think Kanye became a billionaire by accident

    it is funny tho how KSG gets used by some Kanye stans to prove he's still got it when 2 of the fan favourite songs in Reborn and Cudi Montage were just songs he laid a feature verse on originally

  • Feb 9, 2021

    that kanye has a bad album

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    yesac

    it is funny tho how KSG gets used by some Kanye stans to prove he's still got it when 2 of the fan favourite songs in Reborn and Cudi Montage were just songs he laid a feature verse on originally

    Where's the source on reborn and cudi montage

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    Where's the source on reborn and cudi montage

    those two tracks specifically started out as songs for Cudi albums, they didn't start from KSG sessions (clearly based on Kanye not being credited at all)
    its been confirmed by someone who knows Cudi

  • Feb 9, 2021

    that he's still a competent musician

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    BBBBBound 2

    Where did this narrative actually come from ? He has literally one writing credit on Graduation

    He has no credits but there is an old vid of a studio session for Graduation where Big Sean is writing stuff and the moment the camera comes up to him he stops writing and looks nervous.

  • Feb 9, 2021
    jynth

    that he always has a bigger plan in mind whenever he does or says something controversial

    sometimes that nigga just wants to rile ppl up lmao

    any exposure is good exposure

  • Feb 9, 2021
    Nayvadius Wilburn

    He has no credits but there is an old vid of a studio session for Graduation where Big Sean is writing stuff and the moment the camera comes up to him he stops writing and looks nervous.

    maybe hes shy

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    Nayvadius Wilburn

    He has no credits but there is an old vid of a studio session for Graduation where Big Sean is writing stuff and the moment the camera comes up to him he stops writing and looks nervous.

    We have how many demos of Ant Clemons writing for Yandhi and NONE of it even came close to making the album
    That's 15 years into the game when people said Kanye wasn't a perfectionist, there's probably 100 verses written for Graduation that didn't make the cut

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    yesac

    We have how many demos of Ant Clemons writing for Yandhi and NONE of it even came close to making the album
    That's 15 years into the game when people said Kanye wasn't a perfectionist, there's probably 100 verses written for Graduation that didn't make the cut

    The session was for Good Life

  • Feb 9, 2021
    Nayvadius Wilburn

    The session was for Good Life

    My point is that soooooo much Kanye s*** whether its raps written by him or other people, beats or whole songs get binned often regardless of if its good or not

  • Feb 9, 2021
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    BBBBBound 2

    Where did this narrative actually come from ? He has literally one writing credit on Graduation

    what song?

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    BBBBBound 2

    which misconceptions around kanye do you hate the most ?
    For me it´s definetly the " Travis produced the whole Yeezus Album without him they wouldn´t be no Yeezus" completly ignoring the fact that he has production credits on only 2 songs & acting like Arca, Mike Dean, Gesaffelstein & co don´t exist

    travis did do alot of prodction for cruel summer and no one in any ways gave that album a listen basically the biggest slept on album period. The production for yezus was based on the GOOD Music producer group of producers if anyone knows like evian christ and skrillex did a little bit of prodcution for yeezus. It was like a experimental production album with like 18 producers on that project

  • Feb 9, 2021
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    travis did do alot of prodction for cruel summer and no one in any ways gave that album a listen basically the biggest slept on album period. The production for yezus was based on the GOOD Music producer group of producers if anyone knows like evian christ and skrillex did a little bit of prodcution for yeezus. It was like a experimental production album with like 18 producers on that project

    Yeezus was mainly Ye and Mike Dean with a lot of contribution by Daft Punk
    Arca, TNGHT and S1 are the only other producers credited on 1 song each, everyone else was just co and additional producers
    Rick Rubin of course reduced it down to a palatable runtime too

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    JT is Electric

    what song?

    Champion

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    Champion

    Kanye made this song to cover it up