"Could Kanye's 'TLOP' Updates Change The Way We See Albums?"

TLOP updates where suppose to turn the project into a living breathing work of art, something that couldn't be done before with traditional media formats. When this was announced for TLOP, I was worried it was an excuse and tbh 4 years later it was. The updates where minimal other than the inclusion of Saint Pablo.

Where as these Yandhi compilations are what TLOP failed to be. New songs continue to leak every week, and people continue to rework stems and demos to perfect the albums flow and transitions. Dozens of versions exist on Youtube and they all have hundreds of thousands of views.

Not only that, but it works extremely well to keep me and others coming back to relisten to new versions. I honestly hope Kanye learns from this and takes a similar, middle of the road approach of letting others remix stems and post their own versions, maybe on his own version of spotify or something,

Portable stem player soon

No

The difference is Yandhi leaks started off in like July 2019 as hot trash have moved into mid territory now, don't see it advancing much beyond that, they're novelties at best with wildly varying quality.

TLOP v1 was good right out of the gate and now with all of the updates it's an amazing project. Getting real updates to the mixes and tracklist right from the artist is so much better than random leak compilations comprised of mumble demos and like 4 kinda finished tracks and it's not even close.

TLOP is my favorite Kanye album, but Yandhi almost as good. You can't honestly say Alien and OG Selah are trash. You also gotta keep in mind how good it might be in 5 years once we have way more leaks.

My man nah

:'( my man i known u for like 4 years now, ur the last person id expect to disagree. How am i wrong?

Kanye is doing what Kanye thinks he's doing

Actually thought about this the other day. Thought it was hella interesting seeing everyone takes at trying to piece together the album especially seeing people include different features and song orders.

Was thinking about this yesterday not the TLOP v yandhi thing but how yandhi is basically an ever evolving project completely comprised of leaks, fan edits, etc. Even though its unintentional the yandhi era one of the most interesting era since it shouldn't exist at all. Reminds of jai paul and the bronze version of jasmine but in album form, every one has a different version

Sorry op but youre completly of base here

Tlop showed a way of an artist reclaiming/ maintaining control of their work in a world where the album format is becoming increasingly obsolete due to streaming

Whereas in an almost poetic way, yandhi is completely out of the artists hands to the point there is no real “canon” yandhi, everyone has their own tracklists, mixes an edits of versions of the track. For example my alien might have spliced kanyes and cudis together whereas yours might also include thug and quavo. Yandhi is a personalised experience to the individual listener whereas tlop was personalised by the artist himself.

i agree in terms of the idea itself

of course it probably wasn't planned & of course isn't official, but "yandhi" IS ever evolving & ever changing almost all the time & being customized to every end.

its the concept being executed to its fullest & very organically, except for its out of Kanye's control.

whats happening to yandhi is what people thought tlop would be once saint pblo came out, but tlop hit a hard stop after that. different versions available without different nuances, track order & even some songs.

the leaks are the spiritual successor.

Saying that the updates to TLOP were minimal is extremely revisionist. ULB, FSMH 1, Famous, Feedback, Highlights, Freestyle 4, Waves, FML, Wolves and Fade all went through at least one significant update, some of them multiple.

What exactly were you expecting?

I listened back to og tlop the other day its crazy how rough it sounds now

He remastered like 4 songs dude, I promise you normal people can barley tell the difference.

What I expect was what I got with Yandhi, s*** like Hurricane v1 vs v2 ect, those are real updates/differences. IDFK if the drums are a little more subtle on a TLOP update, that's not an "update" that's a patch, very different concept.

TLOP was patched to make it better, it didn't need it tbh it was fine on release. Yandhi actually gets updates.

There's more differences between Hurricane v1 and v2 than between any version of TLOP.

TLOP is a better album than Yandhi, I was just trying to make a point about the living breathing album concept, Yandhi pulled it off better than I could have ever expected a commercial album to.

Yandhi mumble demos are not even comparable to TLOP

ITT people who can't read

I never suggested Yandhi is better than TLOP...

okay emily oberg....

Yandhi doesn't f***ing exist

Both are completely different projects

were you around in 2016 for the updates? those weren't only remastered lmaooo. the updates were a massive thing on social media with everyone tryna figure out what changed.

hurricane v1 and v2 aren't updates..those are just different versins of the songs. Its like when all the TLOP og songs leaked. Kanye makes s*** tons of versions of songs its like Highlights final vs us then having a leaked Highlights OG with a new verse

you're mixing things here that don't make much sense.

A bunch of hackers selling versions of mumble tracks isn't living breathing anything. Pablo was gradually updated for 3+ months and even had an entire track that was made after the album released added to it. That's what updating is..not an alternative version thats nothing but an alternative

y'all just don't understand what I'm saying lmfao, everyone who disagrees with me continues to spend a paragraph agreeing with me, just forget about it

The updates where minor as f***, if I played any officially released version of any TLOP song and asked you to identify what version it was, the only one you could call out is Facts. The leaks and demos of TLOP make TLOP a lot more of what I'm talking about but there wasn't as many significant differences as in Yandhi.

i don't think anyone who actually experienced listening to the OG album over and over then getting the famous update, the wolves update and then all the rest can say this was minor at all.

like even the f***ing track count and runtime changed. Project shifted so much for Fantano he redid his score after he realized the number of updates it had

Fantanos review of the update was terrible, he has absolutey no appreciation of Kanyes work, I listened to every version of TLOP at least 500 times and spent 2 years archiving and catalouging the differences between every version in existance as well as every other alt and demo in existance, it's called the kanye tracker i made it look it up, I can tell you with absolute certainty that the only reason the updates are significant to us is because we over listened to the album. He remastered a few tracks, changed like 2 bars, split up the tracklist and added saint pablo. Thats all the updates where, there are more differences between OG highlights and v6 highlights than there is between the entire v1 and v6 album. You're a delusional idiot if you think the updates where in any where significant. It's one thing to argue TLOP wasn't actually trying to change that much over time, and it was simply an expectation is fair, but to suggest the differences in updates are ANYWHERE near close to those found in the different versions of Yandhi is absolutely unarguably moronic. You're wrong.