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  • Jan 9, 2025
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    GodzillaMinusOne

    KTT and twitter loves acting like ANYTHING Ye does musically now matters to his legacy overall :chanlaff:

    His legacy is completely set in stone, fellas. CD-Yeezus run ain't getting erased from music history. Whatever a 50 year old Kanye does now should not be getting y'all this upset ffs

    Like saying the latest Ice Cube and Snoop albums "taint" their legacy lol y'all need to let it go and just enjoy the OG's still making art for us

    I remember niggas claimed for over a decade Eminem "destroyed" his legacy after TES and Em is still one of the biggest legends in rap.

    People forget that primes matter more than recent output, hence why even Drake will be deemed a major legend in the long haul.

    TLOP, The Wyoming run, Sunday Service performances, and Donda will be remembered fondly over time too. Just wait.

    Only JIK and V2 and maybe V1 will be seen as true "stains" in the long haul.

    The only thing really "staining" Ye's legacy is stuff that has nothing to do with his music and that's been the case for a long time.

    Soccer moms and casuals who hate on Ye do so because of the association with the Nazi or Trump stuff from infamous interviews, not because they actually took the time to listen to his whole catalog.

  • Jan 9, 2025
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    GodzillaMinusOne

    Prince and MJ are some of the best examples of "this doesnt matter for legacy at all". MJ before he died was absolutely demonized in the media and made fun of on all entertainment fronts. Prince was more mysterious but also was made fun of quite a bit--both of them died and nobody talked about anything but their music and incredible legacies in music. When Ye dies--nobody is going to say "man but he released Vultures 2!! " or "he said something mean about jews!"

    Yep. Prince was more so ignored by the media than hated on.

    But I remember very clearly when MJ was the most hated musician in pop culture before he died.

    Magazines and news articles would openly ONLY call him Wacko Jacko instead of his real name, the pedo accusations were dominating the news like Diddy's accusations right now, pop culture would do parodies and jokes of him, Eminem mocked him on "Just Lose It", Invincible bricked and was panned by critics, people would boo him in certain concerts, etc.

    Death has made people rewrite history about MJ. Even now, there's still some attempts to cancel MJ.

  • Jan 9, 2025
    jynth

    even 2016 ye would be shocked beyond words at what he’s become

    2021 Ye too.

  • SignedTwice

    If he was able to use it in a way Em did on his last album then yea I’d be cool with it

    But ye’s use of AI so far has just been to create patchwork vocals for 1 or 2 lines he didn’t record or have words for lmao

    Great point for sure

  • SABMAN TURNT

    the secret third option:

    kanye retires

    this is where I’m at tbh

  • Jan 9, 2025
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    Are we gonna continue being in denial that Kanye isn't Eminem tier at this point

  • zenirama

    Brother we’re talking 2004-2013 and 2016-2025

    to be very fair, after Donda when the downfall was locked in completely. 2016-2021 were hit or miss but not terrible

  • Bobby_96

    Yep. Prince was more so ignored by the media than hated on.

    But I remember very clearly when MJ was the most hated musician in pop culture before he died.

    Magazines and news articles would openly ONLY call him Wacko Jacko instead of his real name, the pedo accusations were dominating the news like Diddy's accusations right now, pop culture would do parodies and jokes of him, Eminem mocked him on "Just Lose It", Invincible bricked and was panned by critics, people would boo him in certain concerts, etc.

    Death has made people rewrite history about MJ. Even now, there's still some attempts to cancel MJ.

    FACTS. Being a kid in the 2000s and talking about MJ got your ass cut on tbh but idgaf. It was and still is mad funny to me that everyone literally switched up the 2nd he died

  • Jan 9, 2025
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    Unforgivable

    Are we gonna continue being in denial that Kanye isn't Eminem tier at this point

    he definitely isn’t lmao he only has 2 bad albums. Eminem is on like 9 by now

  • Jan 9, 2025
    Unforgivable

    Are we gonna continue being in denial that Kanye isn't Eminem tier at this point

    Terrible bait

  • Jan 9, 2025
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    JeffersonSteelflex

    he definitely isn’t lmao he only has 2 bad albums. Eminem is on like 9 by now

    Encore has gems on it and Relapse is a cult classic but otherwise I agree

  • Jan 9, 2025

    Keep this AI s*** away from me.

  • Jan 9, 2025
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    JeffersonSteelflex

    he definitely isn’t lmao he only has 2 bad albums. Eminem is on like 9 by now

    Here's my personal tier for all of Ye's projects.

    Magnum Opus: MBDTF, Yeezus, CD, LR

    Great albums/Classic tier: Grad, 808's, KSG

    Good albums: TLOP, Donda, WTT, GOOD Fridays

    Mid/Okay albums: Cruel Summer, Ye, Vultures 1

    Bad/Trash album: JIK, Vultures 2, Donda 2

  • Jan 9, 2025
    Stanley Kiest

    You’re a moron, not engaging this topic with you further

    Preach

  • bmass 🇵🇭
    Jan 9, 2025
    Stanley Kiest

    You’re a moron, not engaging this topic with you further

  • Jan 9, 2025
    chudjak

    AI hate is like autotune hate in the 2009

    Jay-Z next single will be called D.O.A. 2 (Death Of AI)

    in 5 years niggas will call Ye an innovator for using it now.

    Let the GOAT cook.

    Niggas that cant wrap their mind around AI finna get left in the dust

    Yall would be the same people crying about cars while driving around in a horse and buggy

    Im in 2077 mode.

    BULLY.

  • Jan 9, 2025
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    Bobby_96

    I remember niggas claimed for over a decade Eminem "destroyed" his legacy after TES and Em is still one of the biggest legends in rap.

    People forget that primes matter more than recent output, hence why even Drake will be deemed a major legend in the long haul.

    TLOP, The Wyoming run, Sunday Service performances, and Donda will be remembered fondly over time too. Just wait.

    Only JIK and V2 and maybe V1 will be seen as true "stains" in the long haul.

    The only thing really "staining" Ye's legacy is stuff that has nothing to do with his music and that's been the case for a long time.

    Soccer moms and casuals who hate on Ye do so because of the association with the Nazi or Trump stuff from infamous interviews, not because they actually took the time to listen to his whole catalog.

    This generation of entertainment fans only wants the current era to eat. Anything from like beyond 10-15 years ago might as well not exists to most people under 30 lol I see it with movies and people posting their letterboards. Yesterday I saw someone on twitter saying that Godfather was the absolute worst movie they've ever seen and went on to praise a handful of movies from the last 2 years lol

    With hip hop its anything pre 2008ish, they give Wayne leeway but Luda, TI, 50 etc... get s*** on all the time lol so in that case Eminem was trash and ruined his legacy, Ye ruined his legacy with these last few albums and the Kendrick/Drake beef is the biggest thing to ever happen in rap. Thats just how it goes these days

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  • Bobby_96

    Yep. Prince was more so ignored by the media than hated on.

    But I remember very clearly when MJ was the most hated musician in pop culture before he died.

    Magazines and news articles would openly ONLY call him Wacko Jacko instead of his real name, the pedo accusations were dominating the news like Diddy's accusations right now, pop culture would do parodies and jokes of him, Eminem mocked him on "Just Lose It", Invincible bricked and was panned by critics, people would boo him in certain concerts, etc.

    Death has made people rewrite history about MJ. Even now, there's still some attempts to cancel MJ.

    MJ was absolutely HATED bro lol magazine covers everywhere, Scary Movies making fun of his plastic surgery and/or kid allegations. He died and it was all praise from that day on. We live in an era where everything is "what have you done for me lately?"--only when they are permanently gone(death) do people actually stop dissecting and trying to bring down entertainers and give them their flowers.

  • Jan 9, 2025

    lazy b******

  • Jan 9, 2025
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    AI is going to let Ye fulfill his visions.

    AI is a tool for the people.

    It takes the monopoly away from big corporations.

    The tech just aint fully there yet.

    You'll see.

    Bully.

  • Jan 9, 2025
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    Still don't know how y'all think an album with

    Slide
    Time Moving Slow(and yes, the final version is 10x better than OG)
    Field Trip
    Fried
    Promotion
    Forever
    River
    Lifestyle
    and 530 is trash and that V1 is so superior but this site is usually 2 albums behind when it comes to Ye so I'll just wait

  • Jan 9, 2025

    Hang it up.

  • Jan 9, 2025
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    chudjak

    AI is going to let Ye fulfill his visions.

    AI is a tool for the people.

    It takes the monopoly away from big corporations.

    The tech just aint fully there yet.

    You'll see.

    Bully.

    Im about to be a bully and shove you in a f***in locker

  • Jan 9, 2025
    Bobby_96

    Yep. Prince was more so ignored by the media than hated on.

    But I remember very clearly when MJ was the most hated musician in pop culture before he died.

    Magazines and news articles would openly ONLY call him Wacko Jacko instead of his real name, the pedo accusations were dominating the news like Diddy's accusations right now, pop culture would do parodies and jokes of him, Eminem mocked him on "Just Lose It", Invincible bricked and was panned by critics, people would boo him in certain concerts, etc.

    Death has made people rewrite history about MJ. Even now, there's still some attempts to cancel MJ.

    MJ Fully innocent.

    Study how he owned over 50% of SONY ATV

    Study who wanted it back

    Study Epstein Island

    Study im not gonna say which doctor

    MJ Innocent.

    Bully.

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