Mom on everything, they tryna play us

Idk I think Donda is very maximalist to a fault and a lot of this album is minimalist which I typically gravitate to honestly. It’s hard to compare them. I don’t mind the shorter songs here at all. I think he gets his point across and lets the production feature on this album more than just adding on a person to fill up a song where I felt he did on Donda.

Where I can say it’s clearly better is the rapping overall compared to Donda.

Maybe I’m delusional but I think King, Father, All the Love, Punch Drunk, Whatever Works, Mama’s Favorite, White Lines, Damn, and Beauty and the Beast are all very strong songs.

I’d list more songs too but don’t want to overly glaze

If Donda was still alive, do y’all think we would’ve ever gotten an album like 808s/MBDTF/Yeezus? Just curious

Im entitled to my own opinion

No, maybe Yeezus

What do you think we would’ve gotten? More bear trilogy type albums?

808s maybe because that had more to do with losing his fiancée

Way too much donda talk

Maybe Good Ass Job? I think I remember reading about being the original plan

The reason I like Mama’s Favorite is because it kinda is structured as a stamp of approval on his ego from his freaking mom which is interesting to me in terms of the highs and lows of Kanye.

there's a bunch of minimalist freaks in this thread huh

Yeah, continue to lean toward Pop songs

He said crazy s*** about black people

If I can look past that why would I give af about some s*** he said that happened in Europe that has f*** all to do with me

Im glad Kanye section is back

You real

Speaking of that, do y'all think that story was true? Or just a result of the mental state he was in last year?

Chain Heavy and Us Placers were intended for GAJ iirc

Yeah I think you’re right, especially when he says in Storytellers

“If I hadn’t suffered those losses, I would’ve been too scared to fight the war on traditional thinking”

And that phrase reflects in all 3 of those albums 808/MBDTF/Yeezus

Still interesting to think about

Totally agree

because he knew it was needed to make a classic

This wild I brought this exact same thing up to my wife 2 day ago

That’s f***ing wild about chain heavy, I didn’t know that

i brought a white queen to the alter….

I was thinking about that last night. What from the past two years was real and what was a product of his episode we’ll never know and it’s best forgotten tbh