OCTANE out now.
Mid overrated slop and Iām pretty sure the sales are fake
Mid overrated slop and Iām pretty sure the sales are fake
I just saw the Don Ye Beef thing.
F*** Don for that.
Mid overrated slop and Iām pretty sure the sales are fake
in 2026 almost all music sales numbers are fake / inflated to some degree
that's why I can't go out of my way to bash a big name artist for flopping when in reality, they just may not be willing to play the same bs game as 99% of the field
damn, this is wild
I really love Don's music & feel like his albums are dope, he has a great vocal texture and his melodies can be insane when he gets in his bag.. he typically has very good production as well
it sucks that he's falling out w/ Ye like so many other collaborators but I didn't know so many Ye fans dislike the guy
This has nothing to do with being a āYe fanā. His voice isnāt bad at all, his music is just boring as hell
Heās right to remove Field Trip and Circles tho when Ye and his team didnāt clear his features on both songs. Toliver cleared his other features for sure so songs like Moon wonāt go away but yeah
Pretty sure like 80% on Vultures 2 isnāt cleared
dang no it mightve been a little dog now that i think of it ahhhh yall spammed it to death on this thread
I will say, even back before he went in that manic rant he said in an interview that he was trying to flip the context of the word bully and give it a positive connotation or something like that
I absolutely love the antithesis. In my head, I love to think of it as a moment of self reflection from a narcissistic bully which was pretty much the vibe I got from V1 last year... a brief moment of clarity cutting through the noise, revealing loneliness, regret, and a rare hint of humanity. The album feels like the calm after a violent storm, with a few soft rays of light breaking through the darkness. I can already tell I'll return to this often when I'm in that mood
S/O @Stankie
This one?

lmaoooo yesssss !!!! i gotta save that !!!
i linked the ye and peso pluma joint to my latina chicka and wanted to add that gif !!!
I absolutely love the antithesis. In my head, I love to think of it as a moment of self reflection from a narcissistic bully which was pretty much the vibe I got from V1 last year... a brief moment of clarity cutting through the noise, revealing loneliness, regret, and a rare hint of humanity. The album feels like the calm after a violent storm, with a few soft rays of light breaking through the darkness. I can already tell I'll return to this often when I'm in that mood
I understand why many people were expecting something more energetic tho
as a comeback record it feels anticlimactic especially compared to MBDTF but I think he's made it clear that he's beyond delivering what people expect from him
in 2026 almost all music sales numbers are fake / inflated to some degree
that's why I can't go out of my way to bash a big name artist for flopping when in reality, they just may not be willing to play the same bs game as 99% of the field
Sales were always inflated even in the 90s and 00s but the āalmost all music sales numbers are fake in 2026ā is cope
This has nothing to do with being a āYe fanā. His voice isnāt bad at all, his music is just boring as hell
Heās right to remove Field Trip and Circles tho when Ye and his team didnāt clear his features on both songs. Toliver cleared his other features for sure so songs like Moon wonāt go away but yeah
Pretty sure like 80% on Vultures 2 isnāt cleared
Vultures 2 still in shambles
Vultures 2 still in shambles
Most people already forgot that it wasnāt Ye pushing for another Vultures, it was Ty$. Ye only cared about Vultures 1 and already moved on after the LPs for it
Ty$ was the one working on V2 and even used AI to finish the unfinished songs
in 2026 almost all music sales numbers are fake / inflated to some degree
that's why I can't go out of my way to bash a big name artist for flopping when in reality, they just may not be willing to play the same bs game as 99% of the field
Payola never left
Most people already forgot that it wasnāt Ye pushing for another Vultures, it was Ty$. Ye only cared about Vultures 1 and already moved on after the LPs for it
Ty$ was the one working on V2 and even used AI to finish the unfinished songs
Ty and that Eric fella, forgot his surname
I understand why many people were expecting something more energetic tho
as a comeback record it feels anticlimactic especially compared to MBDTF but I think he's made it clear that he's beyond delivering what people expect from him
I was expecting a step away from dystopiye toward medicated calmye
not Donda level to me, it's a bit below Donda both production wise and thematically, I don't feel like Ye is emotionally invested in many of these songs. it's a fine album and Good by many other artist's standards, like if Travis Scott or Jack Harlow dropped this album it would be a classic. But to me, part of being a fan of Ye / Kanye is the fact that in his prime, he'd pour himself 100% into an album, and while I understand that to do that today would likely be a massive detriment to his health or emotional state, it does feel like Ye is 'coloring inside the lines' a bit with this joint.
vs the Donda album which while a bit messy and heavy handed with features to some people, is one of the most raw albums in his discography, and is a real journey of an album.
I don't hear most of these joints and get the same visceral feeling of a track like Never Abandon Your Family, New Again, or Come To Life. not only from a lyrical POV but production wise there's not a ton of stuff on here that feels like it reflects the mental state Ye was actually in these last few years... it's almost too clean to feel real, especially with a name like BULLY, maybe I was expecting this to be a very angry album.
Sisters & Brothers is great, Mama's Favorite dope too.
All The Love is GOATED for sure. good album, but not really 'classic' for Kanye.
but nowhere near as bad as the worst of Donda 2
never heard Vultures 2 but I hear people trash it all the time in that tier
I may check it out just for fun now that I have this to cleanse my palette with tbh
Man, itās crazy how we kinda have similar readings of both these albums but reversed opinions. But I definitely get your perspective.
For me, I think if you take each song on Bully on its own as standalone, I can see the critique. But as a collection of songs, the sequencing, the tones, the way his refrains are in conversation with the samples, I feel like this is one of his most cohesive projects ever. I really canāt believe how much this album has resonated with me.
Like the first half of the album is a lot of reaffirming of his ego, his accomplishments, his way working, his status, etc. Even the lyrics on āAll the Loveā is something heās haphazardly expressed in lots of interviews (leaving the pain behind and not letting it define youā¦to what end) but itās done so beautifully he wins you over. And then Mamaās Favorite is like this stamp from his own mom on his ego and approach.
Then you get to the title track and heās finally coming to grips with needing to make a change but being in denial. Itās almost like heās talking to his medicine. I have a close family member with mental illness and itās so scary for them to medicate. And I just think it captures that struggle really well.
Then the second half of the album has a complete tonal and rhetorical shift. Itās a lot more gloomy. āI Canāt Waitā with him begging to move his mind forward and then with that sampleā¦.it reminds me of my family member struggling to find the medicine and dosage that works and then his verse about getting back to business as usual and the sample telling him to wait. Itās so well done.
And then by the outro he finally feels like heās ready for takeoff again.
Idk thatās how I process the album.
But still had to make a pit stop for ālast breathā loll.
Ty and that Eric fella, forgot his surname
eric jui
Most people already forgot that it wasnāt Ye pushing for another Vultures, it was Ty$. Ye only cared about Vultures 1 and already moved on after the LPs for it
Ty$ was the one working on V2 and even used AI to finish the unfinished songs
This is new to me, I could tell ye was over it but ye was the one finishing it?
Most people already forgot that it wasnāt Ye pushing for another Vultures, it was Ty$. Ye only cared about Vultures 1 and already moved on after the LPs for it
Ty$ was the one working on V2 and even used AI to finish the unfinished songs
hip hop is so cooked it's crazy how much V2 feels like a dumping ground for unfinished half assed ideas and yet a lot of artists would kill for the chance to work with those rough sketches and the potential behind them
the game ain't the same without ye
This is new to me, I could tell ye was over it but ye was the one finishing it?
Ye āhoppedā on V2 on the last day but I doubt he did s*** lol songs like River were already finished long time ago. Ty$ was using AI to finish the Ye verses on some songs and Ye didnāt say anything about it
Ty$ could be the reason why Ye was f***ing with the AI stuff lol