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  • Water Giver šŸ’§
    Updated Apr 26

    What is this dumbass cope bot campaign looking ass statement that's been popping up on here recently ever since The Fall Off lukewarm reception?

    In what world is Cole the better "technical" Rapper and why was this never talked about until The Fall Off falling off? Drake at his best is better than Cole and Kendrick on average is better than Cole LOL. J Cole Raps more "traditionally" STRAIGHT FORWARD on average than Drake or Kendrick but that has nothing to do with "technical skill".

    First of all, Drake got Cole on First Person Shooter (Cole got him on Jodeci Back tho, and it's about equal on Evil Ways) and Kendrick got Cole on Black Friday.


    WHAT technical showing Cole songs that can beat these from Kendrick:

    • KLEP
      Faith
      Thanksgiving
      Vanity Slaves

    • OD
      Heart Pt.2
      Ignorance is Bliss
      Barbed Wire
      Heaven and Hell
      HOC

    • S80
      F*** Your Ethnicity
      Rigamortis
      Hold Up
      Ronald Regan Era
      HiiiPower
      The Spiteful Chant
      Poe Mans Dream
      Kush and Corinthians
      Ab-Soul Outro

    • GKMC
      Sherane
      Swimming Pools
      Art of Peer Pressure
      Backseat Freestyle
      B**** Don't Kill My Vibe (Jay Z Remix, the remix Kdot verse is wild)
      Money Trees
      Good Kid
      Sing About Me
      Black Boy Fly

    • TPAB
      Welsey's Theory
      Institutionalized
      Momma
      These Walls
      How Much a Dollar Cost
      Blacker the Berry
      I (album version)

    • UU
      Almost every track on there lmao but especially Untitled 1

    • DAMN
      DNA
      Element
      Feel
      Lust
      Pride
      XXX
      Fear
      Duckworth

    • BP Soundtrack
      Opps
      Black Panther (title track)
      Pray for Me
      All the Stars

    • Big Steppers
      Worldwide Steppers
      Count Me Out
      Crown
      Savior
      Mr Morale
      Father Time
      Mother I Sober
      Mirror
      Heart Pt. 5

    • GNX
      Man at the Garden
      Reincarnated
      Gloria

    • Loosies
      Look Out for Detox
      Live Again
      The other half of the Heart SERIES
      Cartoons and Cereal
      Jig is Up
      Euphoria
      6:16 in LA


    WHAT technical Cole songs that can beat these from Drake

    • Comeback Season
      Closer
      Going in for Life
      Where to Now
      Asthma Team
      Do What U Do

    • SFG
      Ignant S***
      Say What's Real
      Uptown
      The Calm
      Successful

    • TML
      The Resistance
      Over
      Karaoke

    • Take Care
      Over My Dead Body
      Crew Love
      Underground Kings
      HYFR

    • NWTS
      Tuscan Leather
      The Language
      Pound Cake
      Wu Tang Forever

    • IYRTITL
      Know Yourself
      No Tellin
      6Man
      Madonna
      Star67
      6PM in New York

    • WATTBA
      Live from the Gutter
      30 for 30

    • Views
      Hype
      Weston Road Flows
      Still Here
      Views (title track)

    • More Life
      Free Smoke
      Sacrifices
      Can't Have Everything
      Lose You
      Do Not Disturb

    • Scary Hours
      Diplomatic Immunity

    • Scorpion
      Emotionless
      Sandra's Rose
      Talk Up
      Is there More

    • Care Package
      Dreams Money Can Buy
      Days in the East
      Draft Day
      4PM in Calabasas
      5AM in Toronto
      Free Spirit

    • DLDT
      When to Say When
      Chicago Freestyle
      Landed
      Losses
      War

    • Scary Hours 2
      Wants and Needs
      Lemon Pepper Freestyle

    • CLB
      Champagne Poetry
      In the Bible
      7AM on Birdie Path
      The Remorse

    • Her Loss
      Middle of the Ocean
      I Guess it's F*** Me

    • FATD
      First Person Shooter
      8AM in Charlotte
      Stories About my Brother
      Red Button

    • Loosies (ones not on Care Package)
      Trophies
      Summer 16
      Back to Back
      0to100 the Catch Up


    This has always been the case and part of Cole's own middle child syndrome and him always being stuck at #3 while Drake and Kendrick trade back and forth. Cole is "great" at what he does, while the other two are "AMAZING" at what they do.

    And Cole's best is not beating Kendrick's best or Drake's best.

    Kendrick > Drake >>> Cole in skills on average.

  • Water Giver šŸ’§
    OP
    Apr 26

    Rapper technical skills: flow, rhyme scheme, story telling, wordplay, breath control, vocal delivery & cadences. Cole is good, but this bullshit ass bot comment "but he's the best TECHNICALLY" cope ass s*** to overcompensate is pathetic

    Kendrick has better rhyme schemes, story telling, breath control and flow on average over cole - n Drake has better delivery, cadences and also flow over cole as well on average.

    Doesn't mean you can't like J. Cole more than the others tho. Relatability isn't a "Rapper Skill" but it is an important one for an artist skill in general and if you feel more connected to Cole than the others then that's great and should be what's more important, on how they make you FEEL.

  • Kenny is obv the best rapper in all categories

  • Water Giver šŸ’§
    OP
    Apr 26

    I also ain't never seen rappers, industry or battle compliment Cole's skill like they do to Kendrick and Drake

    I also never seen song breakdowns of Cole's like how they do to Kendrick and some of Drake's

    Nor have I seen any viral raving of Cole's skills, LIKE HOW they do to Kendrick and Drake

    This whole random "but he the best technically" sentiment on ktt2 that's been popping up ever since Fall Off fell off is the weirdest most forced s*** ever

  • Drake > Kendrick > Cole

  • In terms of technical skill

    Kendrick > Cole > Drake

    In terms of quality music

    Kendrick > Drake > Cole

  • I skimmed through the lists of songs that prove their technical skill and there’s a song on here that Drake didn’t even write

    I like Drakes rapping better than J Cole’s but we can’t put him above J Cole because he uses writers sadly

  • Drake got disqualified from this discussion when we stopped being able to tell who wrote his verses.

  • They called me a madman

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  • Valentine 🦦
    Apr 26
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    you just naming songs bruh. Karaoke

  • Apr 26
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    technically u can sucka my ball

  • Apr 26
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    You just naming songs man

    How you gonna list First Person Shooter when cole had the better verse lol

  • Apr 26
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    Valentine

    you just naming songs bruh. Karaoke

    Yeah I fw drakes music more than Cole’s but this list being proof of his lyricism

  • Kendrick and Drake are better than Cole and my main barometer for this is who makes better albums & songs I want to listen to. Like genuinely how many great records does Cole even have

  • hayabusa 🌐
    Apr 26
    relapsed bisexual

    technically u can sucka my ball

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    f*** Gay Hole

  • theauracle

  • SABMAN TURNT šŸ§”šŸ»
    Apr 26

    Cole is really good at making music that doesn’t stand out at all

  • Valentine 🦦
    Apr 27
    Kojimbo

    Yeah I fw drakes music more than Cole’s but this list being proof of his lyricism

    nah facts

  • Oblivion X

    You just naming songs man

    How you gonna list First Person Shooter when cole had the better verse lol

  • Valentine 🦦
    Apr 27
    Oblivion X

    You just naming songs man

    How you gonna list First Person Shooter when cole had the better verse lol

    and Cole literally said ā€œDrake wasn’t even tryna rap on that, he was focused on making a song if you know what I meanā€ like come on bruh lol

  • Apr 27

    cole has always been better than the field but has never interfered with the two horse race at the top

  • technically get some b****es

  • Cole smoked Drake on FPS what 😭😭😭