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  • Mar 9
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  • Misfit
    https://twitter.com/thomasontown/status/1766339386864546298

    First time around, I was too busy cracking up at the scenario to notice that he looks right into the camera lmao

  • Mar 9
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    In the middle of a rewatch for all the BP nominees… saving the best for last

  • KFA 🏛️
    Mar 9
    ANTI

    In the middle of a rewatch for all the BP nominees… saving the best for last

    Loved The Lobster and thought Killing of A Sacred deer was pretty good.

    But the Poor Things trailer idk. Maybe i should just give it a watch to find it out

  • Misfit
    https://twitter.com/thomasontown/status/1766339386864546298

    There are people who try to call this movie pretentious lol

  • CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

    Hoo boy, okay. So, to summarize my thoughts of the movie and the source material:

    Book

    It's much more cynical than the movie, and at its core, it's a very political novel. It just so happens to have a reanimated figure on a journey of sexuality, femininity, and social change.

    I'm gonna spoil the biggest difference between the book and the movie, but basically, the book is famous for its meta-approach to how it tells it's story and how unreliable the narrator is. It's basically a manuscript that McCandless wrote, but here's the kicker: At the end of the manuscript, there's another ending: an extended letter/epilogue, written by the real "Bella" Baxter, who prefers her real name Victoria. Essentially she debunks the whole story as BS from the fragile ego of a man who didn't accomplish much and was envious of how Victoria herself was outside making real change as a doctor, while he floundered with manuscripts that she didn't think much of.

    In the book, Victoria and Godwin were actually in love, but he told her he was dying and kept pushing her away to other men. She married McCandless out of convenience even though she grew to like him, but her one true love was always Godwin. Obviously in the movie, they went for something different, because Willem Dafoe is like 700 years old and him being romantically involved with Emma Stone would induce mass projectile vomiting and push the movie to an NC-17 rating.

    Bella's condition was dubbed 'erotomania,' and she gets around, word to Pac. You learn about her influences and how she pushed for socialist and suffragist movements. She also had three sons and two died in World War I, which did irreversible damage to her mental and disillusioned her on her ventures. You get to see the negative press she got for pushing for birth control measures as well. This is what gives the book it's feminist edge: her having the last word with the epilogue, her accomplishments put on display, as she's one of the few female doctors around at the time, then she tries to navigate an imperialist, capitalist, racist world with her own ideas, even though she gets massive pushback. This is all left out of the movie

    The book also plays out differently during key moments. Bella refuses to go with the general when he objects the wedding. Instead, they all convene at Baxter's home and that's when the negotiations escalate into a showdown with a gun. Bella manages to grab hold of the gun but she's the one who's shot in the foot, not the general, and she basically tells him that she recognized him at the brothel in Paris (he's a kinkster in private) then she tells him to f\*\*\* off literally. He leaves, and the next day, he shoots himself in the head. It's a much darker conclusion.

    The movie is not awful, but it's very disappointing and makes me wonder if Yorgos and screenwriter Tony McNamara were actually aware of the source material, or if they got summary notes from the intern who brought them coffee on set.

    There's stuff to appreciate of course, like the world that Yorgos created here. It's vibrant and very easy on the eye in its otherworldliness. Emma Stone also commited to her role and it's apparent from start to finish. Mark Ruffalo had by far the worst accent in the film, but he provided a number of the movie's laughs. That dinner scene was hysterical.

    The movie lost steam for me after the first hour, and fumbled the ending with the generic evil General doing generic evil s***. Also the writing was piss poor, and Yorgos presented only parts of the book he wanted to show, which unfortunately makes the movie open to misinterpretation of the pedophilic and statutory nature.

    In the end it's a struggle to see what point the movie was trying to make if it left out the most important part of book-form Bella in favor of s***scenes. This is why the 'feminist' label on this movie, to me, feels disingenuous and surface level. I get that the book is messy and complicated and some things inevitably get left out, but why not show more of Bella becoming a doctor and implementing her ideas? They even got the wrong person to play the American on the boat/ship (I'm talking about Harry Astley, the character played by Jerrod Carmichael). In the book, Astley is the imperialist British guy, and Dr Hooker is the American cynic. It's small things like these that make me wonder if they really went through the source material or nah

    Overall, book was pretty good. The movie was disappointing coming off from reading the book, but I get that the sprawling and messy nature of the source material makes it hard to adapt. The film critics do seem to love it tho, so

    Yorgos secured the book rights from Gray in person like 15 years ago. Gray liked Yorgos' movie Dogtooth and Yorgos liked the book. The film expands on Dog Tooth. McNamara is Yorgos' guy for a few years now. The Poor Things film is also aping My Fair Lady if anyone has seen that.

  • Mar 10
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    Mac Wit Da Cheese

    Just to address two things here Godwin stated he didn’t want to have feelings for Felicity because he made that mistake with Bella. He wanted to remove feelings so he can truly observe her for science. Secondly, Godwin died his brain doesn’t work. They couldn’t put it in a new body. For Bella, the baby was alive so they put the baby’s brain in it’s mother’s body

    Thank you for explaining this. Hmm, watched one Youtube review where the guy thought that Godwin is a good guy, but now after your input about Felicity I'm not sure. I mean he gave Bella money to travel with some dude, but then treat Felicity like a lab rat, that's such a big difference.

  • Pokerking4128

    Thank you for explaining this. Hmm, watched one Youtube review where the guy thought that Godwin is a good guy, but now after your input about Felicity I'm not sure. I mean he gave Bella money to travel with some dude, but then treat Felicity like a lab rat, that's such a big difference.

    Yeah there’s some layers there remember he relates it to how his dad treated him like a lab rat. So it’s kinda like a generational trauma thing. Plus he felt betrayed by Bella. At the end of the day you’re right, it shows a darker side of him

  • This s*** was pretty but so weird lol

    As much as the story told goes against this, it’s hard to shake the feeling that this has a h**** male gaze vibe

  • Mar 11
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    Well we got 4

  • Mar 11
    OSCAR WINNER

    Well we got 4

    I take it as a W

  • this movie is really out there gettin these hoes' brain guts rearranged I saw it wit my own two eyes

  • Thought this was really silly in the first 30 mins then settled into what it was and I enjoyed it. Accents also hilariously off in this but I think it fits the movie really well

  • Misfit
    https://twitter.com/thomasontown/status/1766339386864546298

    ngl I thought this was some meta-thing the director was doing re: the accents in this film. Like he made him intentionally break from it and then snap back into for whatever reason...turns out it's a near blooper lol

  • Mar 12

    thought for sure id hate this but halfway through its pretty good

  • Mar 17
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    I got Bioshock Infinite vibes off this

  • Raiden

    I got Bioshock Infinite vibes off this

    watched it last night and literally came in the thread to say this

  • Mar 19

    I watched this on a small dose of edibles and it made me feel like I was on mushrooms

  • really fun rewatch

  • binging yorgos this weekend

  • Misfit
    https://twitter.com/thomasontown/status/1766339386864546298

    killed the role over and over again

  • Rock Mudson

    If you try to jack off to this movie your d*** should fall off

    never found shawty attractive till this

  • CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

    For laughs?

  • OSCAR WINNER

    Me and @proper on the movie screen