SomeRandomNob

4y

never thought id hate someone trying to compliment an album I love.

please stop using the internet.

m02stp

4y

I’ve never heard an intelligent anti-JIK argument.

It is now more apparent than ever that this forum is and always was divided into two camps:

1. People who truly understand and appreciate good music.
2. People who pretty much only listen to s***ty mainstream rap and HAPPEN to love Kanye more than the others.

I don’t want bangers. I never listened to Kanye for the bangers. All of his singles are my least favorite songs.

A song doesn’t mean “unfinished” just because it has no drums. A song also doesn’t mean “unfinished” because it’s only 2 minutes in length. A lot of you f***s are just overstimulated by the cheap high of mainstream rap. And THAT is what is clouding your judgement on how good JIK is.

Do you guys know what happens when you first start to eat a healthy diet? When you cut out sugar and all your bullshit processed foods and then try to eat a piece of FRUIT, you’re like “what is this s*** I can’t taste anything”. Meanwhile, for me (with my perfect diet, and fantastic physique to match) when I eat a piece of fruit it feels like the sweetest thing I’ve had all year.

The solution to your JIK problem isn’t to complain and protest (cough left cough) about it, or even to “add drums and make it slap”. The solution is to cut your ties with s***ty overstimulation music and the rules that you THINK music needs to have.

CLB BMO

4y

its ass my g

VivaJeebus

4y

Every Hour - interpolation of a classic gospel hymn infused with other references from the Psalms

Selah - title is obvious reference to the Psalms. Lyrics start trend of first half of album (i.e. starting to appreciate spirituality but still letting the ego infuse the content + reflection on his recent past). Kanye is focused. There are actually a ton of biblical references / allusions throughout. Of all JIK's tracks this one comes with pretty consistent bars.

Follow God - from the table-setter of Selah we jump into Follow God. Classic sample, higher energy - in this situation he explores a convo with his dad. He's exploring, getting teased about how his behavior doesn't match his Christian ideals. He's focused but easily frustrated. Screams at the end to really drive it home.

Closed on Sunday - hard as bricks.

On God - we're getting all the aspects of early faith on the first half of the album. On the previous three tracks, he's been focused, frustrated, or meditative (in order). On this track, he's feeling empowered / joyful / exuberant. Look at Kanye go! He get's it! He's happy! Is this it?! Nope. Right when you think he's solid, that ego slips through - "that's why I charge that I charge"...NO KANYE! THAT'S NOT WHAT GOD IS ALL ABOUT!...which brings us to..

Everything We Need - ahhhhh, there it is. The turning point. The center of the album. God is...everything we need. How simple. How beautiful. They don't need to pursue the vices or be controlled any longer - they can put that all back on the tree. He stripped this track down to just the hypnotizing vocals and his bars. He doesn't care what you think about it because this music is "for who it matter to."

Water - Radical Baptism. Psychedelic experience. He's struggled so much with duality. With binaries. He realizes that fluidity is key.

God Is - Testimony. Vulnerability. True empowerment. Surrender. He's better grasping what god means to him. Beautiful track. Rarely have we seen Kanye in this mode. It's awesome.

Hands On - Back to being meditative. This time it's deeper. Not just about the gram and standing up for his home. But a deeper appreciation for how he's likely to be judged and doubted. He no longer wants to fight, draw lines in the sand, fend off those who come onto "his land" with the weapons he has in the spirit's land. Instead he just wanted to be prayed for. He wants to be loved.

Use this Gospel - less militaristic than the themes on side 1. here we've got Kanye talking about the gospel as a means of focus, protection, clarity, and bringing family together.

Jesus is Lord - from the frenetic voices in the opener calling for every voice to join in - to the confluence of horns in the closer with Kanye exalting. Biblical references here with the instrumentation and lyrics. Jesus isn't just king (physical / material / royal designation) but Lord (ruling over his spirit)

Album is f***ing amazing. Tons to a***yze and break apart here. One of the most commercially viable artists of all time is exploring spirituality and doing so on an album that intentionally centers on the message versus bending genre norms for fun. He can skate on the paradigm and shift it when he feel like. Here he's exploring space, sparseness, the bare essentials. letting the spiritual and the imagination and the voices of others fill the gaps.

m02stp

4y

I’ve never heard an intelligent anti-JIK argument.

It is now more apparent than ever that this forum is and always was divided into two camps:

1. People who truly understand and appreciate good music.
2. People who pretty much only listen to s***ty mainstream rap and HAPPEN to love Kanye more than the others.

I don’t want bangers. I never listened to Kanye for the bangers. All of his singles are my least favorite songs.

A song doesn’t mean “unfinished” just because it has no drums. A song also doesn’t mean “unfinished” because it’s only 2 minutes in length. A lot of you f***s are just overstimulated by the cheap high of mainstream rap. And THAT is what is clouding your judgement on how good JIK is.

Do you guys know what happens when you first start to eat a healthy diet? When you cut out sugar and all your bullshit processed foods and then try to eat a piece of FRUIT, you’re like “what is this s*** I can’t taste anything”. Meanwhile, for me (with my perfect diet, and fantastic physique to match) when I eat a piece of fruit it feels like the sweetest thing I’ve had all year.

The solution to your JIK problem isn’t to complain and protest (cough left cough) about it, or even to “add drums and make it slap”. The solution is to cut your ties with s***ty overstimulation music and the rules that you THINK music needs to have.

SERENITY

4y

I don't want to sound dismissive because you put a lot of effort into that, but I think a lot of that is heavy reaching.

Every Hour, Jesus is Lord, Use This Gospel, God Is and Water are all pretty straightforward praise songs. I don't think that your takeaways correlate with any of Kanye's actual intentions in writing them given that they closely mirror actual Bible verses. I'm a Christian, but praise songs just don't make interesting music.

The album has moments where it hints at some depth in Kanye's faith journey. Hands On showed us his fear of being judged by other Christians, but he doesn't really touch on any other specifics with that struggle on the album. Follow God could've done something cool with the argument with his dad, but half of the lyrics in that song are nonsensical filler.

He also has a lot of songs that seem like poor lyrical fits for the album. For a track like On God to work with this theme of selflessness and praise, you have to buy into your idea that they fit some kind of planned narrative concept. Unfortunately, the lack of cohesion or detail in his lyrics forces the listener to make huge mental leaps to create a connection between the tracks like you did.

Dutch22

4y

Writing up a descriptive and highly subjective personal interpretation with a bunch of superlatives doesn’t make JIK less s***ty bruh. Worst Kanye album to date by a mile

Yeezus2019

4y

'Addiction' best Track off Late Registration

PushaToThe

4y

Addiction appreciation thread

m02stp

4y

I’ve never heard an intelligent anti-JIK argument.

It is now more apparent than ever that this forum is and always was divided into two camps:

1. People who truly understand and appreciate good music.
2. People who pretty much only listen to s***ty mainstream rap and HAPPEN to love Kanye more than the others.

I don’t want bangers. I never listened to Kanye for the bangers. All of his singles are my least favorite songs.

A song doesn’t mean “unfinished” just because it has no drums. A song also doesn’t mean “unfinished” because it’s only 2 minutes in length. A lot of you f***s are just overstimulated by the cheap high of mainstream rap. And THAT is what is clouding your judgement on how good JIK is.

Do you guys know what happens when you first start to eat a healthy diet? When you cut out sugar and all your bullshit processed foods and then try to eat a piece of FRUIT, you’re like “what is this s*** I can’t taste anything”. Meanwhile, for me (with my perfect diet, and fantastic physique to match) when I eat a piece of fruit it feels like the sweetest thing I’ve had all year.

The solution to your JIK problem isn’t to complain and protest (cough left cough) about it, or even to “add drums and make it slap”. The solution is to cut your ties with s***ty overstimulation music and the rules that you THINK music needs to have.

El Nigga

4y

JIK has more substance and better lyrics than Yeezus. Better production than TLOP and Ye. The best hooks on a Kanye project since TLOP and the most "Kanye moments" in a Kanye album since Yeezus. KTT just doesn't like it cause it talks about jesus instead of taking perks or lean or f***ing b****es. It is what it is

gnocchi

4y

stfu

frenchpress

4y

read this thread while eating a tangerine