Apr 4, 2020·1 reply
Moody mannThey should be charged with that now too just for the amount of civilian casualties
There are more civilian causualties on Russia and Iran’s end though. Should they be charged too
- Apr 4, 2020·1 replyEnpax
There are more civilian causualties on Russia and Iran’s end though. Should they be charged too
If thats the case then of course
- Apr 4, 2020·1 replyMoody mann
If thats the case then of course
It’s sad to admit, but unless the human race can admit to renouncing it, there will always be terror groups and states that back them, causing wars that lead to civilian casualties. Almost every country in the world is guilty of this so it’s not like we can charge any of them
- Apr 4, 2020·2 repliesEnpax
It’s sad to admit, but unless the human race can admit to renouncing it, there will always be terror groups and states that back them, causing wars that lead to civilian casualties. Almost every country in the world is guilty of this so it’s not like we can charge any of them
Youd have to come with up some denominator on what makes the level of civilian casualities more “egregious” than the other.
Its a gray area for sure but i think some sort of worldwide regulation should be put in place. Drone strikes are the biggest reason for civilian casualties on the US end so something should be done about that.
- Apr 4, 2020·1 replyMoody mann
Youd have to come with up some denominator on what makes the level of civilian casualities more “egregious” than the other.
Its a gray area for sure but i think some sort of worldwide regulation should be put in place. Drone strikes are the biggest reason for civilian casualties on the US end so something should be done about that.
Drone technology is getting somewhat better and kills less civilians now than they were ten years ago, and they’re a big reason why US combat troops aren’t being used as much as before, and the combat troops probably would’ve killed more civilians than the drones. Even if the US unilaterally withdrew from the region, Iran and Saudi Arabia would still be waging war on each other through proxies and Israel would still be doing what they’re doing. Although I do think America should withdraw (along with stop selling weapons to other countries) because at least then they can say the blood isn’t on their hands as much as it is now
- Apr 4, 2020·4 repliesEnpax
Drone technology is getting somewhat better and kills less civilians now than they were ten years ago, and they’re a big reason why US combat troops aren’t being used as much as before, and the combat troops probably would’ve killed more civilians than the drones. Even if the US unilaterally withdrew from the region, Iran and Saudi Arabia would still be waging war on each other through proxies and Israel would still be doing what they’re doing. Although I do think America should withdraw (along with stop selling weapons to other countries) because at least then they can say the blood isn’t on their hands as much as it is now
Yeah i agree with you on that last part. Also its amazing how we couldve possibly ended the war in Yemen but f***ing Trump vetoed it. I wanna know who in that admin bought him off for Saudi Arabia. Even the congress Republicans voted to end arming Saudi.
- Apr 4, 2020Moody mann
Yeah i agree with you on that last part. Also its amazing how we couldve possibly ended the war in Yemen but f***ing Trump vetoed it. I wanna know who in that admin bought him off for Saudi Arabia. Even the congress Republicans voted to end arming Saudi.
His official reasoning is that by coaching the Saudis they can be on the inside and somewhat lessen the human casualties, but as far as I see they’re kinda doing whatever they want and America is aiding them. Although America’s withdrawal probably wouldn’t have ended the war, there would still be Sunni militants fighting against the houthis. But I think Trump just really wants to oppose Iran anywhere he can, even with more civilian casualties than otherwise
Apr 4, 2020·1 replyYou guys are deluded if you think any state is gonna go to war in the next few years. We are about to enter the worst economic crisis in modern history and you guys are indulging war fantasies
Apr 4, 2020
Pretty ToneyThat DD214 feelin nice rn
Lmfao don’t brag bro if this war is popping off I’m gonna be in Iraq shooting at Iranian soldiers 😂😂😂😂😂😂
- Gojira 🦖Apr 4, 2020
SlippingThruTheWarSome para militia group funded by iran's oil money. The regimme in Iran sells the oil and gives the money to khamenei supporters, hizbullah, qods and the rest goes to building bullshit shrines and advertising 1400 year old rituals.
Iranians will never forget Trump's kind act of killing Soleimani. The only positive thing the US has ever done in relations to Iran. Soleimani started as a personal enforcer of OG supreme leader and created a para militia group with the purpose of assasinating Iranian scholars, politicians and journalists with different mindsets who didn't agree with the regimme. He was Khameneis right hand man and they were desperately trying to make a hero out of him in recent years. He was next in line for presidency.
I don't think there is going to be a war. But attacking iranian targets outside of Iran is an easy job. It's an easy win for america because those iranian troops are all incompetent morons!! Because as an iranian you gotta be pretty low IQ and borderline braindead to be a regimme supporter.
That is exactly why their big revenge failed so miserably. Their commanders are stoopid. Not a single american died as a result of their "big revenge". They rocketed down their own plane, killed 180 innocent iranian passengers and killed another 80 in a deadly stampede during Soleimani's funeral because they blocked side streets to gather a big crowd for some photographs for propaganda purposes and to fool the western media in thinking they have supporters.
They know nothing about warfare. Block their oil money, hit their targets outside iran and Trump doesnt even need to enter Iran to win this war. He is doing everything right, this war is already in motion. But sadly there is a chance if the Dems get in power they put the Iran deal back in place, give them another few billion dollars and prolong their reign and consequently keep the region destabilized. Which guess what... Is very profitable for those in war business and oil business.
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- Apr 4, 2020·edited·3 repliesEnpax
The Iraqi administration was taken down in no time and so was the Afghan. The reason those wars lasted so long was because the insurgents weren’t defeated by the weak US propped government. If America went all out like they did to Germany and Japan, they could be actually charged with crimes against humanity
That being said, yeah if America invaded Iran it would be even worse than any other war because there is still a large element there fully opposed to US intervention, leading to N even more intense insurgency than in other countriesThat's actually not true at all. And Iran wont be the same.
The reason Afghanistan and iraq and now syria are so destabilized is because the ghosts historically running america want it to be. Like I said a destabilized region is good for those in oil and war business.
US has historically backed religious groups like taliban, everyone knows that, those speeches obama gave during Mubarak at universities in Egypt even further prove that. Look at how f***ed Egypt is now ... and how the people in Egypt reacted when mubarak died and how highly they think of him. They've now realized that a secular dictator is better than some religious nuts in charge.
Lets look at how ISIS came to be. ISIS is one of the main reasons why there is so much chaos in the region right? The founder of isis Al Zarqawi was a crazy cocaine dealer who hated shias. He only came to fame because D*** Cheney and the crew desperately needed a link in Iraq to alqaeda in order to justify invading iraq and they picked his name and all the media attention enabled him to gain followers. Then they passed the torch to Obama and Obama indirectly gave them guns and enabled them to gain control of a region and expand. If it wasn't for Obama's adminstration and Iran's support of Bashir Assad and allowing him to do what he did to the kurds ISIS wouldn't get the chance to take advantage of the situation and gain control of that whole region.
Now lets look at Iran. You say that a large portion in iran op the USA. But contrary to popular belief Iran is actually the least religious country in the region meaning it has the lowest number of religious people per capita. This is because religious nuts have been running the country for damn near half a century and their policies has run the country to the ground. People in Iran see right through their bullshit. The regimme there tries desperately to advertise islam but their actions have only caused people to distance further away from it. The way they handled this corona virus crisis even got the poor uneducated population to realize this is all bullshit and their islamic "medicine" and ways don't work. The regimme in Iran has less than 10% support of the population but in a country of 90 million 10% is still a few million so they are always able to gather a big crowd for propaganda purposes to fool the western media. They are very devious, like I said they blocked side streets during Soleimani's funeral to gather a big crowd to take some photographs and as a result caused a deadly stampede. They are evil morons. After this regimme the likelihood of islamic groups even getting a minority of the seats in the parliament in iran is very low. People don't even go out to vote anymore for these people. It's over
- Gojira 🦖Apr 4, 2020SlippingThruTheWar
That's actually not true at all. And Iran wont be the same.
The reason Afghanistan and iraq and now syria are so destabilized is because the ghosts historically running america want it to be. Like I said a destabilized region is good for those in oil and war business.
US has historically backed religious groups like taliban, everyone knows that, those speeches obama gave during Mubarak at universities in Egypt even further prove that. Look at how f***ed Egypt is now ... and how the people in Egypt reacted when mubarak died and how highly they think of him. They've now realized that a secular dictator is better than some religious nuts in charge.
Lets look at how ISIS came to be. ISIS is one of the main reasons why there is so much chaos in the region right? The founder of isis Al Zarqawi was a crazy cocaine dealer who hated shias. He only came to fame because D*** Cheney and the crew desperately needed a link in Iraq to alqaeda in order to justify invading iraq and they picked his name and all the media attention enabled him to gain followers. Then they passed the torch to Obama and Obama indirectly gave them guns and enabled them to gain control of a region and expand. If it wasn't for Obama's adminstration and Iran's support of Bashir Assad and allowing him to do what he did to the kurds ISIS wouldn't get the chance to take advantage of the situation and gain control of that whole region.
Now lets look at Iran. You say that a large portion in iran op the USA. But contrary to popular belief Iran is actually the least religious country in the region meaning it has the lowest number of religious people per capita. This is because religious nuts have been running the country for damn near half a century and their policies has run the country to the ground. People in Iran see right through their bullshit. The regimme there tries desperately to advertise islam but their actions have only caused people to distance further away from it. The way they handled this corona virus crisis even got the poor uneducated population to realize this is all bullshit and their islamic "medicine" and ways don't work. The regimme in Iran has less than 10% support of the population but in a country of 90 million 10% is still a few million so they are always able to gather a big crowd for propaganda purposes to fool the western media. They are very devious, like I said they blocked side streets during Soleimani's funeral to gather a big crowd to take some photographs and as a result caused a deadly stampede. They are evil morons. After this regimme the likelihood of islamic groups even getting a minority of the seats in the parliament in iran is very low. People don't even go out to vote anymore for these people. It's over
Regime supporters outside of Iran are shat on daily by their non-regime supporting neighbours too, lol.
- Apr 4, 2020·1 replySlippingThruTheWar
That's actually not true at all. And Iran wont be the same.
The reason Afghanistan and iraq and now syria are so destabilized is because the ghosts historically running america want it to be. Like I said a destabilized region is good for those in oil and war business.
US has historically backed religious groups like taliban, everyone knows that, those speeches obama gave during Mubarak at universities in Egypt even further prove that. Look at how f***ed Egypt is now ... and how the people in Egypt reacted when mubarak died and how highly they think of him. They've now realized that a secular dictator is better than some religious nuts in charge.
Lets look at how ISIS came to be. ISIS is one of the main reasons why there is so much chaos in the region right? The founder of isis Al Zarqawi was a crazy cocaine dealer who hated shias. He only came to fame because D*** Cheney and the crew desperately needed a link in Iraq to alqaeda in order to justify invading iraq and they picked his name and all the media attention enabled him to gain followers. Then they passed the torch to Obama and Obama indirectly gave them guns and enabled them to gain control of a region and expand. If it wasn't for Obama's adminstration and Iran's support of Bashir Assad and allowing him to do what he did to the kurds ISIS wouldn't get the chance to take advantage of the situation and gain control of that whole region.
Now lets look at Iran. You say that a large portion in iran op the USA. But contrary to popular belief Iran is actually the least religious country in the region meaning it has the lowest number of religious people per capita. This is because religious nuts have been running the country for damn near half a century and their policies has run the country to the ground. People in Iran see right through their bullshit. The regimme there tries desperately to advertise islam but their actions have only caused people to distance further away from it. The way they handled this corona virus crisis even got the poor uneducated population to realize this is all bullshit and their islamic "medicine" and ways don't work. The regimme in Iran has less than 10% support of the population but in a country of 90 million 10% is still a few million so they are always able to gather a big crowd for propaganda purposes to fool the western media. They are very devious, like I said they blocked side streets during Soleimani's funeral to gather a big crowd to take some photographs and as a result caused a deadly stampede. They are evil morons. After this regimme the likelihood of islamic groups even getting a minority of the seats in the parliament in iran is very low. People don't even go out to vote anymore for these people. It's over
When I said a large portion of the population supported Iran, I didn’t mean most of them. I know the country was generally hated the regime. But the same in Iraq in Afghanistan. In fact, a majority of Iraqi and Afghan citizens actually supported a US presence in the country in the beginning (not now though). But you can’t deny that there is still enough people in Iran who support the government to actually fight about it. The US invading Iraq caused the power vacuum for ISIS, but that they didn’t actually arm them or even the taliban or al-queda for that matter. The mujahideen who fought the soviets and later led the country aren’t the same exact people as the Taliban, even if the taliban also happened to fight the socialists.
You saying it yourself, there’s around 10% of the country that still supports them. That’s more than enough for a prolonged insurgency that would eventually sway the public’s opinion on a US intervention (and hey already don’t support one now). The best way would be to just heavily sanction the country and provide covert funding for rebels and protestors there or something. That way America can make it look like a home grown revolution and not a foreign inaction
- Apr 4, 2020Enpax
When I said a large portion of the population supported Iran, I didn’t mean most of them. I know the country was generally hated the regime. But the same in Iraq in Afghanistan. In fact, a majority of Iraqi and Afghan citizens actually supported a US presence in the country in the beginning (not now though). But you can’t deny that there is still enough people in Iran who support the government to actually fight about it. The US invading Iraq caused the power vacuum for ISIS, but that they didn’t actually arm them or even the taliban or al-queda for that matter. The mujahideen who fought the soviets and later led the country aren’t the same exact people as the Taliban, even if the taliban also happened to fight the socialists.
You saying it yourself, there’s around 10% of the country that still supports them. That’s more than enough for a prolonged insurgency that would eventually sway the public’s opinion on a US intervention (and hey already don’t support one now). The best way would be to just heavily sanction the country and provide covert funding for rebels and protestors there or something. That way America can make it look like a home grown revolution and not a foreign inaction
Yeah, that is the best way
- Apr 5, 2020·1 replySlippingThruTheWar
That's actually not true at all. And Iran wont be the same.
The reason Afghanistan and iraq and now syria are so destabilized is because the ghosts historically running america want it to be. Like I said a destabilized region is good for those in oil and war business.
US has historically backed religious groups like taliban, everyone knows that, those speeches obama gave during Mubarak at universities in Egypt even further prove that. Look at how f***ed Egypt is now ... and how the people in Egypt reacted when mubarak died and how highly they think of him. They've now realized that a secular dictator is better than some religious nuts in charge.
Lets look at how ISIS came to be. ISIS is one of the main reasons why there is so much chaos in the region right? The founder of isis Al Zarqawi was a crazy cocaine dealer who hated shias. He only came to fame because D*** Cheney and the crew desperately needed a link in Iraq to alqaeda in order to justify invading iraq and they picked his name and all the media attention enabled him to gain followers. Then they passed the torch to Obama and Obama indirectly gave them guns and enabled them to gain control of a region and expand. If it wasn't for Obama's adminstration and Iran's support of Bashir Assad and allowing him to do what he did to the kurds ISIS wouldn't get the chance to take advantage of the situation and gain control of that whole region.
Now lets look at Iran. You say that a large portion in iran op the USA. But contrary to popular belief Iran is actually the least religious country in the region meaning it has the lowest number of religious people per capita. This is because religious nuts have been running the country for damn near half a century and their policies has run the country to the ground. People in Iran see right through their bullshit. The regimme there tries desperately to advertise islam but their actions have only caused people to distance further away from it. The way they handled this corona virus crisis even got the poor uneducated population to realize this is all bullshit and their islamic "medicine" and ways don't work. The regimme in Iran has less than 10% support of the population but in a country of 90 million 10% is still a few million so they are always able to gather a big crowd for propaganda purposes to fool the western media. They are very devious, like I said they blocked side streets during Soleimani's funeral to gather a big crowd to take some photographs and as a result caused a deadly stampede. They are evil morons. After this regimme the likelihood of islamic groups even getting a minority of the seats in the parliament in iran is very low. People don't even go out to vote anymore for these people. It's over
Wowwwww I did not know this. I really thought that most people in Iran supported the regime and theocracy bullshit. Now I really hope their leaders don’t do anything stupid, Iranians sound like reasonable people that are just in a s***ty situation.
- Gojira 🦖Apr 5, 2020·1 replyTOKYOFROMTHEWEST
Wowwwww I did not know this. I really thought that most people in Iran supported the regime and theocracy bullshit. Now I really hope their leaders don’t do anything stupid, Iranians sound like reasonable people that are just in a s***ty situation.
Oh yeah, a major reason why, Miami, Toronto, Vancouver are Iranian hotspots from the diaspora due to the regime, also cities in Germany and Sweden.
I myself am from an Iranian refugee family, born and raised in Toronto.
- Apr 5, 2020·1 replyGojira
Oh yeah, a major reason why, Miami, Toronto, Vancouver are Iranian hotspots from the diaspora due to the regime, also cities in Germany and Sweden.
I myself am from an Iranian refugee family, born and raised in Toronto.
Wow that’s interesting. So just out of curiosity would you say your allegiance is more with Iran or North America?
- Gojira 🦖Apr 5, 2020·1 replyTOKYOFROMTHEWEST
Wow that’s interesting. So just out of curiosity would you say your allegiance is more with Iran or North America?
I’m against the Iranian regime and I support the people of Iran, I know full well America won’t act out of the interests of the Iranian people when they would possibly boot out the regime, but their actions would benefit them regardless as long as it ain’t nukes or anything.
- Apr 5, 2020·1 replyGojira
I’m against the Iranian regime and I support the people of Iran, I know full well America won’t act out of the interests of the Iranian people when they would possibly boot out the regime, but their actions would benefit them regardless as long as it ain’t nukes or anything.
Yeah tbh I support the American military but if we do anything in Iran it’s gonna be because it benefits us and our economy lol.
- Gojira 🦖Apr 5, 2020TOKYOFROMTHEWEST
Yeah tbh I support the American military but if we do anything in Iran it’s gonna be because it benefits us and our economy lol.
Yeah. Ideally Trump/Sanders/Biden just ignore Iran entirely and silently support the people through funding their revolution groups.
- Apr 6, 2020stingray
You guys are deluded if you think any state is gonna go to war in the next few years. We are about to enter the worst economic crisis in modern history and you guys are indulging war fantasies
Nov 4, 2021·2 repliesIsrael gearing up for an attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities
probably within a year
- Nov 4, 2021
Nov 4, 2021If the US sees it as profitable in some way yes
Nov 4, 2021You wanna talk
Or go to war?