some of those guys made Kanye sound, The-Dream created the 808s and heartbreak sound

u a casual

you said SWV is obsecure/underrated.

You left out Joi's Star Kitty's Revenge

How you gon' mention underrated/hidden R&B joints and leave out Rachid?

and any mentioning of Me'Shell and you leave out Plantation Lullabies and Bitter??

Fam stop.

How you better as a child

i put u on to them, i doubt u knew them b4 i made dat post

Break your heart was a slapper tbf

nigga I literally grew up on all those joints. Outside your door one of my favorite joints of Me'Shells lol.

I know you prolly doing this "fantano but R&B" gimmick as a troll but don't play me like that bruh.

im not yt Fantano a lame

I really don’t understand this thread

Music by huge artists are still getting leaked daily. Carti, Trippie, Kanye, Drake, ASAP, Uzi, Future, the list goes on.

So if that was your angle it makes no sense

And if you enjoy early-mid 2000’s r&b just say that then

rnb my g not rap

coulda fooled me my nigga.

but yeah, most of the s*** in this OP was trash when they came out that late 00s to early 2010s "cassie/early DJ Mustard" type of R&B aged badly lmfao.

cassie goated and aged beautifully tf u mean?

i mean that sound not her bruh.

her sound aged amazingly, created a whole lane, she is a pioneer and a underground legend for rnb heads

influenced everyone from SOPHIE, Charli XCX, Tinashe to Kelela and Solange

"Cassie"

"underground legend"

....but yeah, I'm the one that doesn't know s*** about R&B

pretty confirms that you don't know rnb

Me & U was a billboard success you talking underground aight nigga lmao.

smh no clue

It seems like R&B is still somewhat there, but maybe in a different form? The Weeknd, Drake, Frank, SZA, Chloe x Halle, Anderson .Paak, Brent Faiyaz, Ella Mai, etc are all very popular. I guess maybe R&B isn't going the 2000s direction and has more neo soul influence nowadays as well?

theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2011/jan/06/cassie-growing-cult

what about this screams innovative or underground?

Some of y’all have no culture

modern R&B doesn't care about traditional vocal skills which isn't necessarily bad

The dark, hypnotic high ends coupled with Cassie's ice-queen delivery made this stand out from the tired crowd of mainstream r'n'b at the time. It still sounds wholly and eerily unique

Cassie’s eponymous 2006 debut album was a relatively slept-on pop record that rode a wave of critical and chart attention thanks to the single ‘Me & U’. Bafflingly, it had never seen a vinyl release until fledgling UK label Be With Records offered up a legitimate 2LP edition properly reasserting the album’s pleasures and continuing influence (frequently noted by producers like Four Tet, Jamie xx, and many of the Tri Angle Records crew).

"Cassie’s eponymous 2006 debut album was a relatively slept-on pop record that rode a wave of critical and chart attention thanks to the single ‘Me & U’. Bafflingly, it had never seen a vinyl release until fledgling UK label Be With Records offered up a legitimate 2LP edition properly reasserting the album’s pleasures and continuing influence (frequently noted by producers like Four Tet, Jamie xx, and many of the Tri Angle Records crew)."

despite a growing cult reputation and a list of influential admirers including Four Tet, Jamie xx and Björk, a purported follow-up album has yet to materialise.

Cassie’s appeal to the current crop of producers is easy to divine: her silken, sensual and soulful vocals – at times vulnerable, at others icy cool – may have lacked the gymnastics of her peers, but they’re the perfect foil for the harder, more street-savvy strains of R&B.

Crazy that Jason outlasted most of the people on this list lmao

Nigga said ice queen delivery

@op that article in trying to big up Cassie mentioned probably the biggest valid critique anyone ever had on her, her vocals...were just not that strong nor exceptional.

And if you wanna talk influence, idk I guess you could attribute those kinda soft minimalist/whispery singing to her...but I’d put that more on Jhene.