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  • Jan 19, 2021
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    sounds like their business model is still going to be relying on extracting surplus value from their employees, so thus it is exploitative.

    The only way all this works is if the government owns and controls everything

  • Jan 19, 2021
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    Darren Collison still blows my mind.

    Imagine believing in Jesus so hard you turn down winning a championship with the Lakers.

  • Jan 19, 2021
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    Tdot

    I am. What exactly would a person who cant afford to buy a house do if they cant get a mortgage and there was no rental market?

    The issue is not that this person will not be eventually exploited by someone, the issue is that you don't have to be the one doing the exploiting. Because as i've told you before, the moment you enter this relationship as their exploiter, you have put your self in a scenario where their interests come into direct contradiction with theirs. therefore, no matter how much you may want to see yourself as helping them, or doing the right thing etc., you are not, and when it comes down to it all that will matter is that your interests as the landlord are fulfilled.

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  • Jan 19, 2021
    Tdot

    The only way all this works is if the government owns and controls everything

    there are key industries and businesses that should be nationalized in the first stages of a socialist society, and businesses should work on the model of democratic, cooperative ownership.

  • Jan 19, 2021
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    if i can get one person itt or reading it to change their mind, ever, i'll take that as a win so ill keep doing it

    Ok but dawg you’ve been doing this for several years let’s say

    Every 3 months you rail against capitalism

    If you changed one mind every 3 months that’s 4 per year.

    I’ve watched you do this for 5 years now prolly

    That’s 20 people over 5 years? And can you honestly say choice changed 20 minds ITT?

    So just call it what it is, mental masturbation.

  • Jan 19, 2021
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    AKFresh

    Darren Collison still blows my mind.

    Imagine believing in Jesus so hard you turn down winning a championship with the Lakers.

    jehovas wittnesses are crazies

  • Jan 19, 2021
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    Ok but dawg you’ve been doing this for several years let’s say

    Every 3 months you rail against capitalism

    If you changed one mind every 3 months that’s 4 per year.

    I’ve watched you do this for 5 years now prolly

    That’s 20 people over 5 years? And can you honestly say choice changed 20 minds ITT?

    So just call it what it is, mental masturbation.

    this argument only works if you think i only have these discussions itt which is not true

  • Jan 19, 2021
    Creasy

    jehovas wittnesses are crazies

    We invited him front row to our game, showed him on the jumbotron, our owner had dinner with him.

    And he still turned us down for Jesus

  • Jan 19, 2021
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    plus every day people encounter new scenarios, new antagonisms and contradictions that might make them receptible to ideas that they previously rejected.

  • Jan 19, 2021
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    this argument only works if you think i only have these discussions itt which is not true

    Ofc I’m saying so what’s the point on keep having them ITT tho I’m not saying give up I’m saying we back to the Capitalism Devil speech which is fine we have the same arguments all the time I just mean let’s not act like we are doing a service to anyone but ourselves here that’s all

  • Jan 19, 2021
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    plus every day people encounter new scenarios, new antagonisms and contradictions that might make them receptible to ideas that they previously rejected.

    In this thread? The one where Val showed his d***?

  • Jan 19, 2021
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    sounds like their business model is still going to be relying on extracting surplus value from their employees, so thus it is exploitative.

    so where do you draw the line on this? surely the owner should make more because he does more no? what is the correct split?

    also as a separate conversation do you place any value on someone having an idea and seeing it through to create some sort of invention or business? surely that intellectual property has some sort of value and the risk and work done to bring it to life deserves some level of compensation no?

    I can get down with some socialist ideas for sure, but you're losing me on this one.

  • Jan 19, 2021
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    In this thread? The one where Val showed his d***?

    LMFAO yall are funny today

  • Jan 19, 2021
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    Ofc I’m saying so what’s the point on keep having them ITT tho I’m not saying give up I’m saying we back to the Capitalism Devil speech which is fine we have the same arguments all the time I just mean let’s not act like we are doing a service to anyone but ourselves here that’s all

    If theres anything we have learned the past 4+ years, speaking about these things on the internet as a way to try and reach others has been proven as effective

  • Jan 19, 2021
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    FundamentaIs

    If theres anything we have learned the past 4+ years, speaking about these things on the internet as a way to try and reach others has been proven as effective

    sarcasm?

  • Jan 19, 2021
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    kyrie return tomorrow 😈

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    Jan 19, 2021
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    red eagle

    @gyro @DonJulio @First_Take

    yall up to date on jujutsu kaisen?

    Yeah

  • Jan 19, 2021
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    Ofc I’m saying so what’s the point on keep having them ITT tho I’m not saying give up I’m saying we back to the Capitalism Devil speech which is fine we have the same arguments all the time I just mean let’s not act like we are doing a service to anyone but ourselves here that’s all

    You’re not accounting for the lurkers!

  • Jan 19, 2021
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    saph

    kyrie return tomorrow 😈

    Watch us lose and he gets all the blame even if it’s at no fault of his

  • Jan 19, 2021
    fmvp yzy vert

    Watch us lose and he gets all the blame even if it’s at no fault of his

    us?

  • Jan 19, 2021
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    sarcasm?

    No. Online politics was a big factor in the 2016 election

  • Jan 19, 2021

    I’m not saying you can’t change people’s minds tho I’m saying let’s not categorize spending half the day cursing the capitalist machine in the nba thread in ktt two dot com is anything more than us trying to feel empowered by a very basic (mis)understanding of the s***ty situation we are all relatively in as a global society that’s all

  • Chief Julio šŸ‡ŖšŸ‡ø
    Jan 19, 2021

    Yzy should be a politician

  • Jan 19, 2021
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    FundamentaIs

    No. Online politics was a big factor in the 2016 election

    Morons influencing morons yes I agree but again you’re categorizing it in a positive way when in all reality it’s the polar opposite

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