sounds like their business model is still going to be relying on extracting surplus value from their employees, so thus it is exploitative.
The only way all this works is if the government owns and controls everything
Darren Collison still blows my mind.
Imagine believing in Jesus so hard you turn down winning a championship with the Lakers.
I am. What exactly would a person who cant afford to buy a house do if they cant get a mortgage and there was no rental market?
The issue is not that this person will not be eventually exploited by someone, the issue is that you don't have to be the one doing the exploiting. Because as i've told you before, the moment you enter this relationship as their exploiter, you have put your self in a scenario where their interests come into direct contradiction with theirs. therefore, no matter how much you may want to see yourself as helping them, or doing the right thing etc., you are not, and when it comes down to it all that will matter is that your interests as the landlord are fulfilled.
The only way all this works is if the government owns and controls everything
there are key industries and businesses that should be nationalized in the first stages of a socialist society, and businesses should work on the model of democratic, cooperative ownership.
if i can get one person itt or reading it to change their mind, ever, i'll take that as a win so ill keep doing it
Ok but dawg youāve been doing this for several years letās say
Every 3 months you rail against capitalism
If you changed one mind every 3 months thatās 4 per year.
Iāve watched you do this for 5 years now prolly
Thatās 20 people over 5 years? And can you honestly say choice changed 20 minds ITT?
So just call it what it is, mental masturbation.
Darren Collison still blows my mind.
Imagine believing in Jesus so hard you turn down winning a championship with the Lakers.
jehovas wittnesses are crazies
Ok but dawg youāve been doing this for several years letās say
Every 3 months you rail against capitalism
If you changed one mind every 3 months thatās 4 per year.
Iāve watched you do this for 5 years now prolly
Thatās 20 people over 5 years? And can you honestly say choice changed 20 minds ITT?
So just call it what it is, mental masturbation.
this argument only works if you think i only have these discussions itt which is not true
jehovas wittnesses are crazies
We invited him front row to our game, showed him on the jumbotron, our owner had dinner with him.
And he still turned us down for Jesus
plus every day people encounter new scenarios, new antagonisms and contradictions that might make them receptible to ideas that they previously rejected.
this argument only works if you think i only have these discussions itt which is not true
Ofc Iām saying so whatās the point on keep having them ITT tho Iām not saying give up Iām saying we back to the Capitalism Devil speech which is fine we have the same arguments all the time I just mean letās not act like we are doing a service to anyone but ourselves here thatās all
plus every day people encounter new scenarios, new antagonisms and contradictions that might make them receptible to ideas that they previously rejected.
In this thread? The one where Val showed his d***?
sounds like their business model is still going to be relying on extracting surplus value from their employees, so thus it is exploitative.
so where do you draw the line on this? surely the owner should make more because he does more no? what is the correct split?
also as a separate conversation do you place any value on someone having an idea and seeing it through to create some sort of invention or business? surely that intellectual property has some sort of value and the risk and work done to bring it to life deserves some level of compensation no?
I can get down with some socialist ideas for sure, but you're losing me on this one.
Ofc Iām saying so whatās the point on keep having them ITT tho Iām not saying give up Iām saying we back to the Capitalism Devil speech which is fine we have the same arguments all the time I just mean letās not act like we are doing a service to anyone but ourselves here thatās all
If theres anything we have learned the past 4+ years, speaking about these things on the internet as a way to try and reach others has been proven as effective
If theres anything we have learned the past 4+ years, speaking about these things on the internet as a way to try and reach others has been proven as effective
sarcasm?
@gyro @DonJulio @First_Take
yall up to date on jujutsu kaisen?
Yeah
Ofc Iām saying so whatās the point on keep having them ITT tho Iām not saying give up Iām saying we back to the Capitalism Devil speech which is fine we have the same arguments all the time I just mean letās not act like we are doing a service to anyone but ourselves here thatās all
Youāre not accounting for the lurkers!
kyrie return tomorrow š
Watch us lose and he gets all the blame even if itās at no fault of his
Watch us lose and he gets all the blame even if itās at no fault of his
us?
Iām not saying you canāt change peopleās minds tho Iām saying letās not categorize spending half the day cursing the capitalist machine in the nba thread in ktt two dot com is anything more than us trying to feel empowered by a very basic (mis)understanding of the s***ty situation we are all relatively in as a global society thatās all
Yzy should be a politician