I am at a loss for words

I get that it doesn’t paint a favorable picture for Bernie and the establishment doesn’t like him but what’s actually wrong with this article?

new day same bullshit

every state is a new puzzle to solve. the Powers That Be will never allow paper ballots

Using the percentage of the popular vote won in 2 contests with 7 or 8 other candidates to say that he has a ceiling of >30% is bullshit. Especially when recent head to head polls has him up against every other major candidate.

Lmao it is literally an objective a***ysis of the race so far based on data from the first two states.

A large part of the article is even dedicated to explaining why things might be going the way they are in a way that defends the Sanders campaign.

Had any other candidate won the first two contests with the same plurality of the vote as Sanders there wouldn't be any discussion of a voter ceiling. This is the same thing the media did in 2016 with the Trump campaign, using tight wins in a crowded field to project his support as being driven by a small minority of voters. Call a spade a spade, there's nothing objective or fair about this kind of reporting.

It literally wouldn’t make any sense for any other candidate.

Did you even read the article? I’m sorry, but if you think that is a hit piece, then you literally will not be satisfied by any article that isn’t overtly pro-Sanders.

How would the voter ceiling angle not work with any other candidate if they won by the same margins? Why does this only apply to the man winning against every other candidate in head to head polling?

Because their point is that Bernie’s extremist appeal doesn’t resonate with most democrats, so he won’t get enough democratic votes even if he is the nominee. While the moderate dems, if one of them was leading, would be able to draw in more support (not that I agree)

Right, and that's clearly not a fair argument. You simply cannot base how someone would do in a 2 person race on percentages from a more crowded field. Once the 2016 Republican primary dwindled down to Trump, Cruz and Kasich we saw Trump winning races with over 50% of the vote.

Yeah, but they added the percentages of progressives like warren and Bernie, against the sum of Pete, Biden, and klobuchar, and found that more voting democrats were behind the moderates. So theoretically, if it were just between Pete and bernie, Pete would win. That being said, trumps final percentage of the popular vote was 44% meaning that most who voted didn’t even vote for him. Yet he went on to win among all republicans and some independents. The truth is most democrats and democrat leaning people would pick ANY democrat at all over trump

Because the entire “angle” is an observation unique to Bernie’s campaign, their expectations and strategy.

Yeah but that's based on the assumption that all Bernie and Warren voters were ideologically liberal and everyone else's voters were ideologically centrist to begin with. There was recent polling that showed most Biden voter's second choice would be Bernie, for example. And again, recent head to head polling had Sanders up against every other Democratic candidate.

Tbh if anyone hit a ceiling it would be Buttigieg and Klobuchar, who did well in very white states but don't have the same support amongst black and brown voters in the more diverse states coming up.

This is true, but the some people are convinced Bernie’s nomination will alienate too many moderates, while others think his policies as president would lead to an economic disaster so they feel the need to discredit future voters from going with him as much as possible

making the mistake of believing everyone is voting based on ideology/policy lol

The article points out that Donald had 35% during New Hampshire and that it was an indication of the kind of momentum that Bernie’s team says he should be having.

That being said, I don’t think it’s unfair to suggest that Bernie has a ceiling but the framing of it in context to moderates/liberal percentages is definitely disingenuous.

And then there’s this. It’s hard to be confident in how voter percentages will be moved/consolidated.

#BernieOrBust

the other candidates have done nothing to persuade me to their side. they’ve only launched bad-faith attacks.

It’s looking increasingly likely that Bernie will end up winning more votes than anyone else. But he needs to win enough to avoid a contested convention

lmao just end me

No this is wrong. They did seperate polls of Bernie against them individually and he beats them all.

Voters arent that ideological

lmao, literally out of the bolivian coup playbook, but what do you expect from a CIA asset

bernie would murder trump in the debates, that's all i know for sure

no other candidate can expose trump the way bernie can

I’m not saying I necessarily agree with that perspective. But thing about the polls that match them against each other, is that people often pick who they think is most equipped to win the nomination and/or beat trump, and since bernie is currently winning, a lot of people have more confidence in him. It’s the same reason why Biden has been leading the polls up until Iowa. The truth is, second round voting in Iowa benefitted Pete far more than it did bernie, which suggests to some media people that if most moderates were to drop out it would benefit the remaining one. I mean this isn’t taking into account that Iowa is a white state while most Biden supporters who would go to bernie are minorities tho