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  • Mar 29, 2020

    Excuse the Clickbait Title

    This video is old news ofc but Pac talks about the Ready To Die situation among other things and goes into detail into why he had issues with Biggie, which is separate from the Suge/Puffy drama that was happening at the same time.

    Some of this stuff is known af (like the Quad Shooting stuff) but the key things he said I wasn't hip to until recent.

    This interview validates the old KTT thread that claimed Bad Boy deliberately bit off West Coast artists (Dre Dog) beats to use for RTD.

    This will be old to some most likely though.

  • Mar 29, 2020

    Cliff Notes:

    • Was upset Biggie wasn't honest about who shot him. Told Biggje to meet him in Jail to talk, Biggie never came to see him but shouted him out on radio.

    • Says most of the NY Rappers were around when he got shot and kept their silence, which he felt was wrong bc he would've set up a conversation and a mediation if they had went through something on the West Coast, names a time he got Treach from Naughty By Nature out of trouble with LA Gangsters.

    • Pac used to let Biggie open for him in New York before he blew up. Pac says he "trained" Biggie and he was like Pac's Lieutenant. Taught Biggie to make songs for Women to sell records.

    • Biggie was supposed to be a part of Pac's Thug Life group bc he wasn't happy with his relationship with Bad Boy. Pac knew Biggie switched up when Ready to Die came out and he didn't shout out Thug Life. Says Biggie said "Fuck Brooklyn, F*** NY, I ain't with Puffy cheating me".

    • There was a KTT Thread years back where posters claimed Biggie bit the West Coast sound for Ready To Die. 2Pac confirms the entire sound and theme of death for the album was Pac's original idea for Me Against The World that Biggie stole. The MATW that came out to the public is the 2nd version.

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    been known.
    2pac stole his style from SCARFACE tho.

  • Mar 29, 2020

    Cliff Notes 2:

    • Says Biggie rapped about doing everything Pac did for him. Says he bought Biggie Champagne bottles bc Biggie was broke, paid for Junior MAFIA's transportation home from time to time. "The s*** he talked about (in songs) was my life". Feels betrayed they went against him after what he did for them.

    • Says East Coast Rappers and DJs were two faced. They would show love on camera but sneak dissing West Coast Rappers and 2Pac on songs and skits in the early mixtape and underground circuit when he was in prison. Name drops Chino XL, Q-Tip, Funkmaster Flex as people sneak dissing. Says "that's what they all (NY Rappers) do."

    • 2Pac got arrested for guns that were Biggie's and his boys. Biggie and them ran off when the Cops came and Pac went down for it, never snitched on them.

    • Says Biggie used to live with him and he "had to beg b****es to f*** him".

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    All I know is Pac>>>>>>>>>>>>BIG

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    good thread

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    Ron Royalty

    good thread

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    The real question is

    Me against the world vs Ready to die

  • drake kanye

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    PAC was cloutchasin

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    Oblivion X

    The real question is

    Me against the world vs Ready to die

    Not a question

    Not even close lol

  • Stan Smith

    PAC was cloutchasin

  • Tha Gawd You Know

    been known.
    2pac stole his style from SCARFACE tho.

    Honestly both Biggie and Pac took they whole style from Scarface lmao Face birthed both them niggas

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    Oblivion X

    The real question is

    Me against the world vs Ready to die

    MATW easily

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    Oblivion X

    The real question is

    Me against the world vs Ready to die

    Idk but I kinda want to see what Pac would've done with the sound of RTD.

    RTD is a classic regardless but I do feel we got cheated lowkey

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    Well if you have ears you can hear that bad boy ripped off dre/the whole west coast sound

    Led to some groundbreaking music tho but that's just facts

    - BRAVE

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    FREE CASH

    All I know is Pac>>>>>>>>>>>>BIG

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    Stan Smith

    PAC was cloutchasin

    Pac was outselling Bad Boy in general during his Death Row era so he really didn't need any more clout than he got.

    Pac is a Gemini like Kanye, just as passionate but more grounded in reality and very big on loyalty. Pac is a lot of things but he never just said things or told events that never happened.

    Everyone believed Pac was clout chasing with the Faith talk but enough people from that era confirmed it was true and Pac never had to lie on his d*** tbh.

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    Tribe

    Not a question

    Not even close lol

    What's ur answer then

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    If y'all ever listen to Scarface's first three albums and then listen to Ready to Die you'll hear Biggie using Scarface's flow throughout most of it.

    S***, it might be safe to say that the concept for Ready to Die actually came from Scarface's album The Diary.

    I love Biggie, but once you learn more about Scarface, BIG looks a lil different in the light. As for Tupac, infact in regards to the West Coast for the most part, Houston played a pivotal role in the development of the sound that Tupac and even Ice Cube were on.

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    Old Sport

    MATW easily

    My pick I fw that album more than rtd

  • He wasn’t lying

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    Scott Raiden

    Idk but I kinda want to see what Pac would've done with the sound of RTD.

    RTD is a classic regardless but I do feel we got cheated lowkey

    Wym by done with the sound I thought the whole idea was that pac had the sound first and biggie took from it

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    Oblivion X

    What's ur answer then

    RTD far better