DicherdownDAVE9

3y

I’m always down to learn give me a few

Oblivion X

3y

Do you think americans or British people shouldn't have boycott Nazi Germany or Apartheid as well ?

Skinn Foley

3y

Y’all social media activists are so annoying.

There are probably a lot of people itt, myself included, who organize in real life. The concept that activism is entirely performative and always lives and dies online is childish and an excuse to stand for nothing. Grow up.

now you’re the foremost voices on human rights violations related to a complicated and ancient conflict between people that have nothing to do with you in a part of the world that you’ve never been to.

It's really not complicated nor ancient. Muslims, Jews, and Christians lived in harmony in the Levant for ages until the Zionist movement went off the rails and became a colonial project for western imperialism. Read Theodor Herzl and try again.

Getting mad at Beyonce for not blocking her movie in Israel is the most armchair activist bullshit I’ve ever heard. Stop letting the media get you so emotional every month. The human brain was not designed to be endlessly exposed to every atrocity across the globe.

Getting mad at a billionaire for profiting off of a genocidal regime when they in no way need to tap into said regime's market to make boatloads of cash is perfectly valid. Shilling for billionaires is pathetic, any economic support of Israel is aiding in their genocidal occupation of Palestine. Break your damn chains and stop being a willful b**** to people who would put a bullet through your head if they could get away with it and profit from it.

Oblivion X

3y

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/23/israel-apartheid-boycotts-sanctions-south-africa

The musicians union blocked South African artists from playing on the BBC, and the cultural boycott saw most performers refusing to play in the apartheid state

Bag Talk Auditor

3y

They say when you tap on SinceKumbaya's head you hear an echo...

etuev

3y

Well the English government didn't actually boycott Nazi Germany until they were forced into war with them over a previous agreement with Poland and in turn basically over the fear of losing their capitalist gains. The royal family actually even donated a substantial amount of money to the Nazi party in the late 30s actually. So did many other English institutions.

Oblivion X

3y

Not just malcom x, numerous black panthers as well

Blue Magic

3y

They really censored khaled 😭

DicherdownDAVE9

3y

From the thumbnail those are all muslims lmao

Jayson

3y

Jesse Jackson was in it

But that's not much help

ray of light

3y

“a stain on her career that will never wash out”

i need people to log off twitter for 5 minutes

Oblivion X

3y

Was referring to British and American civilians not the government where people boycotted German goods in that post

DicherdownDAVE9

3y

https://www.good.is/amp/jay-z-beyonce-black-lives-matter-funds-2639597903

Na I don’t think so because she definitely stands up for her people till i see her moving funny on this side I’ll criticize her tell then it is what it is i can’t tell her who to stand up for just like i said this isn’t her fight

Jayson

3y

I watched but they kept making the parallels of Jim Crow and I don't think that's fair because that's not where our story started. Hell, that's not even the back half of ours

I would like to know where these people that occupy Palestine came from originally and did they participate in the Arab Slave Trade? Also, overall I'd like to know what have they done for American Blacks?

I used to listen to Abby Martin and Marc Lamont Hill on Palestine, but other than people being hurt I don't see why niggas have to care

russianbot23

3y

Y’all social media activists are so annoying.

Couple years ago y’all were political scientists, after that you became infectious disease experts, then you graduated into experts on international relations between Slavic countries, now you’re the foremost voices on human rights violations related to a complicated and ancient conflict between people that have nothing to do with you in a part of the world that you’ve never been to.

Getting mad at Beyonce for not blocking her movie in Israel is the most armchair activist bullshit I’ve ever heard. Stop letting the media get you so emotional every month. The human brain was not designed to be endlessly exposed to every atrocity across the globe.

afterimage

3y

this shows no matter how pro black beyonce, Jay z are they’re interests are tied with upholding American liberal capitalism and helping to assimilate the black community through it culturally.

This doesn’t mean their interests are malicious but they are bourgeois so they will never side with an idea that will threaten them too much.

Hence Jay Z still performing for BLM and during most riots you never see them say overthrow capitalism or end America it’s at most some tepid and vapid “black bodies matter” which sounds very good and idealistic to the average consumer so you feel vested as a black person in partaking in capitalism and upholding it because you think once black people can occupy a certain place in society they too can reap the benefits.

This is common when class consciousness is low and left organizing is minimal. People turn towards working to become the exploiter (black capitalism, black owned business, or even leaving the 9-5 grind) instead of working to emancipate themselves by abolishing class differences altogether

Anyways, whether Beyoncé admits it or not the struggle between black people and Palestinians are similar. Both are people that have been colonized and assimilated into a settler colonial state. The US and Israel sends billions to Israel every year.

The IDF trains multiple police forces across America with the GILEE program. Including in urban warfare which is used against Palestinians and Israeli alike, and the violent oppression black oeole face with police in America. The only difference is America was successful in its mission. Israel’s is still ongoing.

It is no surprise why after multiple uprising especially culminating in 2020 with George Floyd and J6, that Cop City which is the largest police institution planned. Is being built. This is a step to further militarize the police and squash any proletarian mass struggles in the coming years as conditions continue to decline in the imperial core.

Agitating against stopping US imperialism is the bare minimum any First Worlder can do because it is our government that props up the paper tiger Israel. And any retreat of Us imperialism abroad will prevent the Us from continuing its extraction of profits from the global south and hasten the development of conditions set for change at home because the Us leaders can no longer use superprofits form the global south to placate the masses

Israel like all settler colonies, must use some of the most violent forms of oppression, it must marginalize and sanitize the plight of whatever indigenous population they are to make erasing them and establishing a new home easier. See America, Canada, Australia, South Africa.

You don’t even have to get mad at Beyoncé but her position is fundamentally wrong and she COULD say no and speak up, she’s not incapable. We are not asking her to pick up a weapon and join Hamas or even pick up a sign and march. But her material interests are to vested with the American bourgeoisie this clearly shows it.

Any relationship with Beyonce or Jay Z should come from this standpoint

Jayson

3y

I watched but they kept making the parallels of Jim Crow and I don't think that's fair because that's not where our story started. Hell, that's not even the back half of ours

I would like to know where these people that occupy Palestine came from originally and did they participate in the Arab Slave Trade? Also, overall I'd like to know what have they done for American Blacks?

I used to listen to Abby Martin and Marc Lamont Hill on Palestine, but other than people being hurt I don't see why niggas have to care