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  • May 14, 2021
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    ALPHABEAR

    You’re SO fkn cool!!!!!!!! Damn bro👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽😂😂😂

    Half of the world's problems wouldn't exist without religion.
    I'm okay with humanity's insignificance and I don't need fairy tales to teach me how not to be a s***ty person

  • May 14, 2021
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    Pedro

    Half of the world's problems wouldn't exist without religion.
    I'm okay with humanity's insignificance and I don't need fairy tales to teach me how not to be a s***ty person

    Half of the current world wouldn't exist without religion lol

  • May 14, 2021

    Kuffars love talking about the problems religions bring but always ignore the good things it has brought directly or indirectly

  • May 14, 2021
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    ALPHABEAR

    And, what of it? Neither is Judaism or Christianity? And I’m not talking about the perversed, distorted new-age interpretations of the two - rather the orthodox versions where Christians/Jews follow everything to a TEE.

    The one where the actual Christians led crusades into the Holy Land (THAT Christianity).

    And the one where the orthodox Jews oppose & denounce the state of Israel, as having a Jewish state is prohibited in actual Judaism (NOT Zionism).

    Not that pick & choose s***, which shows religious weakness - but the core fundamentals of their holy books (Bible/Torah).

    The pot got a tie-die paint job & called the kettle black, all because it truly stayed black & unchanged.

    You are 100% right bro. But the reality of the matter is that christianity had a 600 year head start so they had a extra 600 years to mellow out. Islam will get there in a few hundred years. Just need them old ass clerics to kick it and certain laws need to get obsolete + reforms. But we will get there

  • May 14, 2021
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    ziggy

    Half of the current world wouldn't exist without religion lol

    Planet's overpopulated

  • May 14, 2021
    Pedro

    Planet's overpopulated

    That's not what I meant lol

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    The US spent decades supporting and spreading fundamentalist ideology throughout the middle east to push back against communism and the Soviet Union.

    6:31 on for more info

  • May 14, 2021
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    Mango
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    The US spent decades supporting and spreading fundamentalist ideology throughout the middle east to push back against communism and the Soviet Union.

    6:31 on for more info

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6-9sXzFuKc

    And they still do ... since bunsen trapped that energy from oil man. We been getting f***ed over

  • May 14, 2021
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    Frankito Reynolds

    And they still do ... since bunsen trapped that energy from oil man. We been getting f***ed over

    Watch as the US army "withdraws" from Afghanistan as this same radical fundamentalism coincidentally spreads across the Afghan-China border. Strange

  • May 14, 2021
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    Frankito Reynolds

    You are 100% right bro. But the reality of the matter is that christianity had a 600 year head start so they had a extra 600 years to mellow out. Islam will get there in a few hundred years. Just need them old ass clerics to kick it and certain laws need to get obsolete + reforms. But we will get there

    I think the problem is just specific groups that take it way too extreme. I don't think Islam in itself needs reform. Islam is actually actively against reformation, so that probably' won't happen. Except those liberal / progressive muslims, but those are completely something else and I dislike them heavily aswell.

    Religion will always have different interpetations, some of those won't be good, but I don't think changing the religion is the solution.

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    Watch as the US army "withdraws" from Afghanistan as this same radical fundamentalism coincidentally spreads across the Afghan-China border. Strange

    Taliban and hizbullah and the ayatollah had a meeting during the first month of the start of the "new" USA adminstration in tehran. The plan is in motion

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    Taliban and hizbullah and the ayatollah had a meeting during the first month of the start of the "new" USA adminstration in tehran. The plan is in motion

    What’s this mean for the future of the region man? Like geopolitically? For Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan/India, China?

  • May 14, 2021
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    ziggy

    I think the problem is just specific groups that take it way too extreme. I don't think Islam in itself needs reform. Islam is actually actively against reformation, so that probably' won't happen. Except those liberal / progressive muslims, but those are completely something else and I dislike them heavily aswell.

    Religion will always have different interpetations, some of those won't be good, but I don't think changing the religion is the solution.

    Exactly the same could be said about christians 600 years ago. BUT once people get ruled over by the crazy exteremists and feel the wrath of god they will put aside the funky interpretations and reform will happen

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    Taliban and hizbullah and the ayatollah had a meeting during the first month of the start of the "new" USA adminstration in tehran. The plan is in motion

    The US also removed the East Turkistan Islamic Movement from the terrorist watch list in December. You can read here about how the US worked with China to get them listed in the first place.

    The Bush Administration designated the PRC-targeted “East Turkistan Islamic Movement” (ETIM) as a terrorist organization in August 2002, reportedly allowed PRC interrogators access to Uighur detainees at Guantanamo in September 2002

    Wow, Uighurs in Guantanamo! I'm sure a certain user in this subforum is very upset over this

  • May 14, 2021
    ALPHABEAR

    What’s this mean for the future of the region man? Like geopolitically? For Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan/India, China?

    The fundementalists will grab power. Create one party ruling class systems.
    Their crew will monopolize the economy. The wealth will go to their family, supporters and the para militias that protect them.

    They are technologically inept so they need China's help for censorship and to keep the vas unhappy population in check. In return they will offer china resources, land and cheap labor. That is how the new silk road comes alive

  • Keep in mind that China and USA are NOT enemies. US lobbyist have their factories in china... all they really want out of this world is cheaper options...

  • May 14, 2021
    Frankito Reynolds

    Exactly the same could be said about christians 600 years ago. BUT once people get ruled over by the crazy exteremists and feel the wrath of god they will put aside the funky interpretations and reform will happen

    The core way in which Islam and Christianity work make sure that an actual reformation like Christianity could never happen, not at that scale.

    I think a big part of the reformation was the fact that Christianity got that "Church", in which it's basically 1 big entity that controlled all ideas about Christianity. In the Roman Empire there were not many people that could read the Bible because translations didn't exist in many languages.

    Having a single entity like that in a religion is just very dangerous and abuse of power happens quickly. The reformation back then partially happened because for example Martin Luther felt like "The Church" was moving away from what he thought was Christianity and partially because of the rise of humanism.

    It's easier to create a big reformation like the Protestant reformation when you're against 1 big entity like "the church", way harder to do when it's against Islam where every city can have different mosques with different interpetations (in europe especially).

    Small movements like the one in the 9th and 10th century with the Muʿtazila movement could happen and I feel like those are already happening, like the progressive muslims. I personally don't like them though.

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    The church was pretty much its own government

  • May 14, 2021
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    ziggy

    The church was pretty much its own government

    And now most christians dont go to church. Thats the reform that was needed lol

  • May 14, 2021
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    Frankito Reynolds

    And now most christians dont go to church. Thats the reform that was needed lol

    That's not really a reform, that's just practicing their religion less / different

  • May 14, 2021

    Mosques don't have the same influence on muslims like the church has on christians

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    ziggy

    That's not really a reform, that's just practicing their religion less / different

    Not necessarily, you dont need to go to a place of worship to keep it halal all the time . Your morals are your morals. Practicing a religion doesnt make you a good person,, as a matter of fact i be more worried about the phonies with zebibah marks than devil worshippers

  • May 14, 2021

    I see you added /different and i agree with that.

  • May 14, 2021
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    Frankito Reynolds

    Not necessarily, you dont need to go to a place of worship to keep it halal all the time . Your morals are your morals. Practicing a religion doesnt make you a good person,, as a matter of fact i be more worried about the phonies with zebibah marks than devil worshippers

    It doesn't necessarily, but going the mosque can be seen as obligatory in Islam. Hadith about it, and quran verses too IIRC.

    Not sure about christianity though, that's why I added "different"

  • May 14, 2021

    But it is true that someone that doesn't go to the mosque can be a better muslim than someone that does go

    I can feel that IRL lmao