Twist Your Cap

3y

It means you're going to be an atrocious doctor tbh

capers

3y

You are acting really entitled right now, stop with these threads, we get it you either don’t understand or want to hear logic.

Vile

3y

If this is what's making you get it even less, then you weren't planning on getting it anyway, let's be real

YANDHI

3y

Knew exactly who OP was when entering

Bro just don’t get it then like you knew this was happening we have had this discussion already. You’ve made and participated in many of these types of threads

If you’re not vaccinated you don’t need to go to Citi Field or travel. Just keep sticking in the pandemic like you already are. We choosing to move on (even if limited)

Water Giver

3y

You do a thread/post of this s*** like every month or two b.

Because those not vaccinated runs the risk of the virus lasting longer and/or evolving past the protection of the current vaccines, if it isnt erradicated enough. Also, vaccines arent a one time thing. There will be a time to re-up, and when that defense goes down then youre threaten again if it isnt stomped out enough.

You do know you can be carriers without symptoms too right?

Also, not all places & people are able to get vaccines yet or maybe ever, & its a global threat. Literally bigger than you or your one country & is a world effort.

Private companies & countries themselves also have the legal right to an extent to make these sort of rules.

People tell you this kind of stuff all the time, the answer & reasoning isnt going to change & you can decide to believe/accept it or not, but it is what it is.

No one cares, just like schools & doctor offices dont care about Karen n her autisim conspiracies, or the certain countries that have always had vaccine requirements for passports dont care bout your feelings outside science as well. Or else we'd have more cases like those idiots skipping flu shots & now bringing back century old diseases that havent been around in forever.

Youre literally just gonna get the same answers as usual, and youre not gonna be satisfied as usual no matter what. Which is fine, but stop bro.

You can decide not to like or accept the vaccine, but you also have to take what comes with those choices like the tinfoil mommys.

Edit: Also, virus restrictions at least in the USA, depends state to state. Blame/talk to your state leaders if its at a level you dont like.

hot pancakes

3y

doctors will of course say we should get the vaccine, it’s essentially a “for the greater good” argument

“yes, there are potentially harmful side effects, but we need everyone vaccinated to stop the pandemic”

i get why the doctors are saying they should still get vaccinated, that doesn’t mean it’s good for the individual, it’s good for the greater good. that’s noble and all, but when it comes to myself, i’d rather wait it out and continue to do what i have been doing since covid started. masked up socially distanced.

CarbideAndCarbon

3y

The vaccine significantly reduces your chances of being infected/hospitalized/dying of covid and bozo over here is saying "yes but whats in it for me?"

hot pancakes

3y

i wouldn’t call it selfish, i’d call it looking out for myself which is a basic form of human survival

if i see someone on the street who needs help, i will help them, because i can quickly assess the risk/reward

but with this, it’s essentially impossible to truly know since these threats are invisible (covid, potential vaccine side effects, etc)

Twist Your Cap

3y

Emergency use is not a full approval.

NONE have full approval, Moderna just filed for it.

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavirus/are-covid-vaccines-fda-approved-heres-how-the-process-works-2/2524845/

Funding does not speed up the process of time, similar to how money doesn't just buy happiness lol.

Russia is having issues with their production, read into it. Some countries are denying their vaccine.

My head isn't in the sand I can cite articles you guys are just repeating s*** you heard on twitter

Twist Your Cap

3y

It's emergency approval as in the positives outweigh the negatives for taking it as known at this present moment. Full approval comes as time passes and it's studied deeper. The moderna vaccine just applied for this.

Yes possibly, but then that makes everyone have to put all their trust in the vaccine when we still aren't exactly sure about it. The emergency approval was mostly rooted in the need for the immunocompromised and older people to get it because we KNOW that the benefits outweigh the risks. For a younger person we can't say the same even though we are vaccinating them.

Who don't know if a segment of the population is basically just trading COVID for something else later in life.

What if we find out you are 50% more at risk to have a heart attack if you get the vaccine in your teens or 20's? Then the risk does not necessarily outweigh getting covid.

This is not all black and white

Twist Your Cap

3y

It's emergency approval as in the positives outweigh the negatives for taking it as known at this present moment. Full approval comes as time passes and it's studied deeper. The moderna vaccine just applied for this.

Yes possibly, but then that makes everyone have to put all their trust in the vaccine when we still aren't exactly sure about it. The emergency approval was mostly rooted in the need for the immunocompromised and older people to get it because we KNOW that the benefits outweigh the risks. For a younger person we can't say the same even though we are vaccinating them.

Who don't know if a segment of the population is basically just trading COVID for something else later in life.

What if we find out you are 50% more at risk to have a heart attack if you get the vaccine in your teens or 20's? Then the risk does not necessarily outweigh getting covid.

This is not all black and white

mosh

3y

like I said in a previous post, I don't think this vaccine would be released if everyone who takes it is going to end up with health problems in a few years. that's also extremely uncharacteristic of the vaccine for the reasons I stated about mRNA and how it breaks down in the body, and given that there's 30+ years of research available about mRNA to support its use.

meanwhile we actually know what COVID's long-term effects are and how they can be absolutely terrible for you. seems silly to me to weigh these what if scenarios if they're statistically insignificant/there's not evidence otherwise. again, any side effect you can get from a vaccine is not only rare, but treatable.

you're right it isn't black and white but not necessarily in the way you think.

ellipsis

3y

appreciate the way you deliver your messages

mosh

3y

like I said in a previous post, I don't think this vaccine would be released if everyone who takes it is going to end up with health problems in a few years. that's also extremely uncharacteristic of the vaccine for the reasons I stated about mRNA and how it breaks down in the body, and given that there's 30+ years of research available about mRNA to support its use.

meanwhile we actually know what COVID's long-term effects are and how they can be absolutely terrible for you. seems silly to me to weigh these what if scenarios if they're statistically insignificant/there's not evidence otherwise. again, any side effect you can get from a vaccine is not only rare, but treatable.

you're right it isn't black and white but not necessarily in the way you think.

KuntaKinte

3y

Gonna be real, that person is a lost cause.

I've been telling him constantly that a large reason for getting the vaccine says mitigating the spread is to avoid long term complications.

Its the same reason why Pregnant women got the vaccine as well as to avoid having their baby come out prematurely.

Not to mention this guy keeps posting articles about inflammation of the layers of the heart in regards to minors despite being an ultra rare occurrence that doesn't seem to be casually linked to COVID19.
All this whilst the CDC director is telling people in his age range to get vaccinated because of the long term complications of a severe case of covid19 if you happen to be unlucky enough to fall into that cohort group.

Like, these arguments are always so weird to me. Its a guy trying to interpret CDC data to you when their director is literally disagreeing with him as of today in a WaPo article where she urges young adults to get vaccinated.

Its just so tiresome

We are random KTT posters on an internet forum. Its sad if I can sway someone more than the literal CDC director who you are citing information from

KuntaKinte

3y

Gonna be real, that person is a lost cause.

I've been telling him constantly that a large reason for getting the vaccine says mitigating the spread is to avoid long term complications.

Its the same reason why Pregnant women got the vaccine as well as to avoid having their baby come out prematurely.

Not to mention this guy keeps posting articles about inflammation of the layers of the heart in regards to minors despite being an ultra rare occurrence that doesn't seem to be casually linked to COVID19.
All this whilst the CDC director is telling people in his age range to get vaccinated because of the long term complications of a severe case of covid19 if you happen to be unlucky enough to fall into that cohort group.

Like, these arguments are always so weird to me. Its a guy trying to interpret CDC data to you when their director is literally disagreeing with him as of today in a WaPo article where she urges young adults to get vaccinated.

Its just so tiresome

We are random KTT posters on an internet forum. Its sad if I can sway someone more than the literal CDC director who you are citing information from

bejewelry

3y

@op why is ur b****ass posting anti-vax s*** here

Go to facebook or ur dumbass all live matter rally and spread ur s*** there