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  • Sep 3, 2020
    mosh

    I've known a few people who've worked for Amazon (as workers and management) and they've confirmed some of this s*** and the insane metrics Amazon collects.

    Friendly reminder that Bezos originally wanted to name Amazon, Relentless but was told that wasn't customer friendly. www.relentless.com still takes you to Amazon

    This f***ed me up

    F*** this dude goddamn @Smoofer

  • Sep 3, 2020
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    gesufaleg

    (poor) Niggas will fight to the death to defend Bezos. We’re all obviously very jealous of the fact that this bum can exploit his workers and get away with it

    To be fair amazon pays better than like all its competition, so if you going to be outraged at them you need to be outraged at all their competitors too.

  • Sep 3, 2020
    krishna bound

    also let's not forget the patented Amazon Worker Cage™️

    https://www.seattletimes.com/business/amazon/amazon-has-patented-a-system-that-would-put-workers-in-a-cage-on-top-of-a-robot/

    yoooooo this is so funny to me the world is f'd

  • Sep 3, 2020
    mosh

    I've known a few people who've worked for Amazon (as workers and management) and they've confirmed some of this s*** and the insane metrics Amazon collects.

    Friendly reminder that Bezos originally wanted to name Amazon, Relentless but was told that wasn't customer friendly. www.relentless.com still takes you to Amazon

    The f***, that worked

  • FREE 💜
    Sep 3, 2020
    SHAQUILLE

    Bezos is a comic book tier villain

    Lex Luthor gets a new update every few years started as a weapons dealer then got based on Trump now I think it's time to base him on Bezos

  • Sep 3, 2020
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    Where do you even begin with Amazon? S*** is f***ed.

  • Sep 3, 2020
    Grif

    Where do you even begin with Amazon? S*** is f***ed.

    unlike something like FB or Twitter which would be significantly easier to regulate, Amazon would be ridiculous at this point because of its scope, infrastructure, government dependence, etc. - the amount of highly specific legislature which would be needed to regulate it would also likely be a big challenge because of both bureaucracy as well as actual enforcement. and this is just in the US; this isn't even getting into the complexities of their operations outside the country.

  • Tadow 🥀
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    AWS has the internet by the nuts, Amazon isn't going anywhere anytime soon

  • Sep 3, 2020
    Zezima

    To be fair amazon pays better than like all its competition, so if you going to be outraged at them you need to be outraged at all their competitors too.

    Why would I not be outraged at other companies paying their workers s***?

    Are you on d****?

  • YOU WILL NOT UNIONIZE

  • Sep 4, 2020

    Been known that racial baiting is utilized to consolidate power at the top and keep us from coming together as one to realize our full potential. Not just race division either though. Men vs. women, gay vs straight, religion vs. other religion, etc.

    The rich f***s who already control everything would love for their cattle to constantly be barraged with these distractions to make us think we’re divided and never rise up. Which I’m sure has been carried out through the use of his private intelligence agency and other assets (cough cough Washington Post)

  • Sep 4, 2020
    theboy

    Amazon is basically the mediator between the world's consumers and producers. If there was a general strike amongst Amazon workers world wide it would shut down a major part of trade and the world economy.

    Hope it happens soon.

  • CKL TML 🌺
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    Glad amazon isnt a thing in the netherlands (yet)

  • Sep 4, 2020
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    krishna bound

    also let's not forget the patented Amazon Worker Cage™️

    https://www.seattletimes.com/business/amazon/amazon-has-patented-a-system-that-would-put-workers-in-a-cage-on-top-of-a-robot/

    Perhaps in the near future, prison labor will actually be in an Amazon factory. Imagine them getting a f***ing contract for that. Doesn't even feel too crazy to me at this point honestly

  • Sep 4, 2020
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    Jason

    Perhaps in the near future, prison labor will actually be in an Amazon factory. Imagine them getting a f***ing contract for that. Doesn't even feel too crazy to me at this point honestly

    s*** man dont give em ideas

  • Sep 4, 2020
    fun

    s*** man dont give em ideas

    In all seriousness, the new America that Trump's culture is fostering is gonna pave the way for Amazon to be even more ruthless than they have been in the past, plus they won't need to even pretend anymore.

    In fact, the hypothetical I originally mentioned would be a GOOD look for amazon ultimately. They could pay the prisoners less than minimum wage, but still more than prison labor wages, and spin it as good PR. A lot of things we'll be dealing with in the near future will give these companies plenty of opportunities to get gov't contracts for s*** that the gov't agencies would've done maybe 5 years ago too

  • Sep 4, 2020
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    why are you assuming increase in workforce diversity = increasing racial tension? based on the article it sounds like the exact opposite.

    happier employees are less likely to unionise, so more diverse workforces are happier. same reason higher pay = less unionisation.

  • Sep 4, 2020
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    WRF

    why are you assuming increase in workforce diversity = increasing racial tension? based on the article it sounds like the exact opposite.

    happier employees are less likely to unionise, so more diverse workforces are happier. same reason higher pay = less unionisation.

    the leaked document isnt implying that, its the opposite, its saying that workforce diversity on average resulted in less attempts at unionization, hence why it was considered a positive factor for amazon. ill admit i was being a bit exaggeratory, but this has been affirmed by other websites too, so it's not just theory;

    observer.com/2020/04/amazon-whole-foods-anti-union-technology-heat-map

    Data collected in the heat map suggest that stores with low racial and ethnic diversity, especially those located in poor communities, are more likely to unionize.

    and then amazon explicitly says outright

    “we do not believe unions are in the best interest of our customers or shareholders or, most importantly, our associates.”

    and its been known they are extremely anti-union gathered from other cited info such as this private intelligent agency. im not saying this is universally hte case everywhere but it is for amazon data-wise

  • Sep 4, 2020
    Tadow

    AWS has the internet by the nuts, Amazon isn't going anywhere anytime soon

    There's commercials for AWS that list multiple online services under their wings and it's pretty shocking seeing how many different sites and services are owned by them

  • Sep 4, 2020
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    krishna bound

    the leaked document isnt implying that, its the opposite, its saying that workforce diversity on average resulted in less attempts at unionization, hence why it was considered a positive factor for amazon. ill admit i was being a bit exaggeratory, but this has been affirmed by other websites too, so it's not just theory;

    https://observer.com/2020/04/amazon-whole-foods-anti-union-technology-heat-map/

    Data collected in the heat map suggest that stores with low racial and ethnic diversity, especially those located in poor communities, are more likely to unionize.

    and then amazon explicitly says outright

    “we do not believe unions are in the best interest of our customers or shareholders or, most importantly, our associates.”

    and its been known they are extremely anti-union gathered from other cited info such as this private intelligent agency. im not saying this is universally hte case everywhere but it is for amazon data-wise

    i know what the document is saying, i'm saying the interpretation in the thread title is bullshit

  • Sep 4, 2020
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    WRF

    i know what the document is saying, i'm saying the interpretation in the thread title is bullshit

    the wider implication is that amazon's pushes for hiring diversity result in higher tensions among employees which then leads to anti-unionization - likely because of highly different backgrounds both economically and socially. this has nothing to do with other companies or the concept of ethnic diversity, it just has to specifically do with amazon.

  • Sep 4, 2020
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    krishna bound

    the wider implication is that amazon's pushes for hiring diversity result in higher tensions among employees which then leads to anti-unionization - likely because of highly different backgrounds both economically and socially. this has nothing to do with other companies or the concept of ethnic diversity, it just has to specifically do with amazon.

    where does the "higher tensions" idea come from though? because they're less likely to unionise?

    so does higher pay cause higher tension too then?

  • Sep 4, 2020
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    WRF

    where does the "higher tensions" idea come from though? because they're less likely to unionise?

    so does higher pay cause higher tension too then?

    "tension" doesn't always mean like "hatred", it can just mean communicative issues or traits which cause "division" - not in the sense of like, you know, a literal race war or racism, but division in the sense of like, friction from not having common ground. This can be a result of backgrounds which are often less likely to unionize. If you want to say I maybe used the wrong word in the OP title, then sure, maybe I should have said "Thinks Racial Differences Help Business" or something.
    The higher pay thing is a separate thing. If you watch the video, issues with amazon are typically not related to anything re: pay, which is higher than competitors, it's generally about the work conditions and practices. I'm not wildly overbearingly pro-union; there are definitely a lot of issues with what many modern union presents vs what they did a few generations ago.
    With that said though, the Amazon pay issue is certainly an interesting separate discussion point. Higher pay, and thus conditional differences which follow, between some employees than others certainly does cause higher tension in the sense of union vs anti-union tension. This is mentioned in the video, the hierarchical difference between warehouse managers and workers for example.
    However, I mean, kind of at the same time - it is possible for "higher pay" to at times be used against unionization. Not that that higher pay itself is the issue innately, but i mean, Amazon makes a lot of money, and the anti-union efforts are clearly not about pay but about the longer term status of the business. If it's easier to pay $15/hr to entrap employees from leaving to work at a place with better conditions or unions but can only afford $10/hr, but at the same time do stuff which threatens union efforts, then they're going to always do so as long as they don't have to change their growth model or worker conditions. Keep in mind many of these warehouses are in the midwest, where most of these states follow the federal minimum wage of $7.25 as well.

  • Sep 6, 2020
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    Mango

    Amazon Web Service hosts like half the internet lol.

    Also, yeah, capitalists tend not to have morals. Otherwise they wouldn't be capitalists.

    wait what?
    what u mean?

  • Sep 6, 2020

    amazon kinda sucks now honestly, same prices pretty much everywhere else these days. Can easily just drive 5 minutes to your nearest walmart or target and get higher quality things faster. also everything on amazon is made from random chinese brands that sound ridiculous all of them are like EVOJFSO

    whole foods is trash cause costco s***s on them in every way

    and prime video has some good originals but honestly wouldnt pay for it

    and amazon music lol?