How come ya'll dont fight for Big Boi to be top 10?
I put whole groups in my top 10s. It's about the music not these cult worship fandoms
Let's s*** on Big Boi and raise Andre on a pedestal for being 1/2 of the same group that Big Boi was in.
No one s***s on big Boi to promote Andre lol. You're creating that in your head.
Like c'mon. A BIG part of the "andre 3000" fanbase IS niggas that don't.....really listen to hip hop like that.
He is a feature GOAT. The same way Lil Wayne was also a feature GOAT. But Lil Wayne also jumped off the porch with his own albums.
It is easy to have more hits than misses when you only spit on 5-10 verses a year.
Let's not.call Steph the greatest shooter of a time because he has another all time great shooter on his team
Such dummy logic lol
No one s***s on big Boi to promote Andre lol. You're creating that in your head.
Except I'm actually from here.
And two, niggas do. People don't talk about Big Boi's solo catalog AT LARGE outside of the south.
I put whole groups in my top 10s. It's about the music not these cult worship fandoms
Thats you though. We all know the real reason 3k is placed in these top 10 lists but big boi is left out. People like @CliCity can pretend like he doesnt understand what we're saying but he does
Let's not.call Steph the greatest shooter of a time because he has another all time great shooter on his team
Such dummy logic lol
Let me simplify this question for you and everyone else in the thread:
If Andre's top 10 why is Big Boi also not top 10?
Someone explain in detail.
Except I'm actually from here.
And two, niggas do. People don't talk about Big Boi's solo catalog AT LARGE outside of the south.
Nigga we here right now. Stop brining your personal gripes into this.
No one in their right minds uses big Boi as a reason why Andre 3k is nice.
Andre 3k resume speaks for itself.
Like c'mon. A BIG part of the "andre 3000" fanbase IS niggas that don't.....really listen to hip hop like that.
He is a feature GOAT. The same way Lil Wayne was also a feature GOAT. But Lil Wayne also jumped off the porch with his own albums.
It is easy to have more hits than misses when you only spit on 5-10 verses a year.
I feel like even 3K knows this going off his interviews he’s extremely afraid and insecure to do this by himself (his words, not mine)
Also he has “The Love Below”….that’s Def a solo album and his last true album (idyllwild is a soundtrack), and what was the result:
one of the biggest songs of the decade, a very influential album that brought melody and other approaches to music into hip hop, and he even put a song at the end that was just 6 min of him straight rapping amazingly about his entire life to that point…and after that he basically retired on the highest note possible after having one of the best discographies as part of outkast.
Does his retirement and insecurity since frustrate me? It really does for selfish reasons, but he was a part of a decade of making great music.
I feel like even 3K knows this going off his interviews he’s extremely afraid and insecure to do this by himself (his words, not mine)
He has actually said this.
That's why I don't know why niggas is coming at me like I said Andre's trash, how many niggas even watched that Rick Rubin podcast. lol.
Let's not.call Steph the greatest shooter of a time because he has another all time great shooter on his team
Such dummy logic lol
that’s a dope a***ogy
Let me simplify this question for you and everyone else in the thread:
If Andre's top 10 why is Big Boi also not top 10?
Someone explain in detail.
Because of substance, attention to detail lyrically and his ability to make great melody and storytelling all are areas in which he excels passes Big Boi and almost every other rapper
Is everyone in A Trube called Quest on the same level becsuee they are a group. What type of logic is that.
Multiple classic albums clearly technically one of the best ever, one of the best at feature verses ever, versatile, some of the biggest rap songs ever
I can get not feeling like he has the discography but he has significantly more verses than Biggie for example
He has actually said this.
That's why I don't know why niggas is coming at me like I said Andre's trash, how many niggas even watched that Rick Rubin podcast. lol.
Yeah that interview was heartbreaking to me, to see how cynical he was about ppl even complimenting him, but yeah most ppl probably didn’t hear that podcast
Because of substance, attention to detail lyrically and his ability to make great melody and storytelling all are areas in which he excels passes Big Boi and almost every other rapper
Is everyone in A Trube called Quest on the same level becsuee they are a group. What type of logic is that.
Big Boi got just as much substance and detail. IMO, his accent alienates himself from a lot of casuals but I guess to me the reason this discussion aggravates me is because...without big boi there aint no Andre and vice versa. That was part of what made Outkast as a whole group shine was they was two different niggas that each were able to show the best of the other person with their contradicting styles.
It's why I think Andre only does features because it matches that Outkast feeling of collaboration.
And when people bring up outkast verses as a reason as to why he's top 10, yeah. It definitely does come across like a "oh Big Boi just wasn't there" especially when it aint like a Tribe called Quest where Q Tip was doing a BIG part of the heavy lifting.
Q Tip: producer, and rapped on majority of the 1st and the 2nd album (low end theory was where Phife was starting to take the s*** seriously, wasn't it Jarobi that was the only other nigga on People's Instinctive Travels)
De La Soul would've been a better example imo. But thanks for actually answering my question.
Yeah that interview was heartbreaking to me, to see how cynical he was about ppl even complimenting him, but yeah most ppl probably didn’t hear that podcast
His part about how he likes going to the laundromat cause it's one of the places he feels normal was a quotable.
It really do be one of the few places where niggas just be chilling chilling.
Big Boi got just as much substance and detail. IMO, his accent alienates himself from a lot of casuals but I guess to me the reason this discussion aggravates me is because...without big boi there aint no Andre and vice versa. That was part of what made Outkast as a whole group shine was they was two different niggas that each were able to show the best of the other person with their contradicting styles.
It's why I think Andre only does features because it matches that Outkast feeling of collaboration.
And when people bring up outkast verses as a reason as to why he's top 10, yeah. It definitely does come across like a "oh Big Boi just wasn't there" especially when it aint like a Tribe called Quest where Q Tip was doing a BIG part of the heavy lifting.
Q Tip: producer, and rapped on majority of the 1st and the 2nd album (low end theory was where Phife was starting to take the s*** seriously, wasn't it Jarobi that was the only other nigga on People's Instinctive Travels)
De La Soul would've been a better example imo. But thanks for actually answering my question.
You're making a different argument. No one is saying Andre 3k exists without big boi.
We are saying they are two different types of rappers and ppl like what Andre 3k does more lol
Why is that such a foreign concept?
You think that Jay Z, Nas, Eminem and Lil Wayne all naming Andre top 5 Is becsuse they hate Big Boi or dont listen to enough Big boi or do you genuine think they look at what Andre 3k has done and realized that s*** is alien like and can't be replicated
F*** KTT are you saying that other goats are biased toward Dre?
Definitely out of ATL but he’s #15-20 overall
Without a solo discography he can’t be put into any Top 10 discussion. And most of his achievements from Outkast get solely contributed to him because he’s artsy and closer to the style of weird art rap that white folks like.
His talent speaks for himself but his hermit personality keeps him from diluting his image so much and at this point most of the goats aren’t gonna come out and say he’s not Top 5 out of respect
Basically his mysterious persona keeps him in the Top 5 discussion, same reason why Frank, Carti, and Kendrick keep getting gassed higher than they should.
The Love Below is a solo album. Without the Love Below we might not have albums like 808s and Heartbreak that influenced this era so much
Who cares about a solo rap album, when he's got more GOAT level verses than most rappers.
Andre is artistic. But he's also made some of the most mainstream hip hop songs too - Hey Ya, So Fresh So Clean, Ms Jackson. He's not some cult rapper for artstistc snobs lol
His part about how he likes going to the laundromat cause it's one of the places he feels normal was a quotable.
It really do be one of the few places where niggas just be chilling chilling.
Yeah if I saw 3K while carrying two big ass baskets imah probably just give a subtle nod and go about my business
Yeah 3K can’t be Top 10 IMO cause it ignores Big Boi contributions, now as a GROUP I don’t think anybody touches their discography
What the f*** type of logic is this
Thats like saying Black Thought cant be top 10 cause of The Roots