Come on bro you used the worst example lol

"But he's also made some of the most mainstream hip hop songs too - Hey Ya, So Fresh So Clean, Ms Jackson. "

I aint know So Fresh So Clean and Ms. Jackson were solo Andre songs.

OP is right

Except the Roots is a band + Black Thought and Malik B (who rest his soul, had some powerful renegades during his lifetime but ultimately, just like Q Tip, Black Thought was doing majority of the heavy lifting. Admittedly Malik having addiction problems didn't help. His "What Goes On" verse is one of my favorite verses of all time)

You haf a decent point but your post fell apart as it went on

Sometimes I think people should just list Wu Tang, Tribe, Outkast, Public Enemy, Mobb Deep, Three 6 etc. in their top 10 lists.

If you asked someone for rock GOATs they wouldn't separate Bob Dylan and the Beatles into 2 different lists.

I get it's tradition, but sometimes I think it means GOATs like Chuck D get a bit underappreciated in these conversations

Black has a solo career btw plus he’s the only emcee in The Roots

Debatable but for sure most people who put him like top 3 don’t actually listen to any of his material

RT.

i'd write the same thing if we were talking about Andre.

My point was that he's not just arty rapper. He does both. Part of why he's up there. Or Outkast as a whole if you want to count them as one

Emceeing is different. You're ranked based on your individual skill. When ppl mentioned Andre being a goat they are referencing his verses

I feel like to me Andre is a little bit more introspective, his flow and cadences are more interesting, and he’s more versatile in what he does vocally. Big Boi is a great too. He has some really good post outkast work.

I’m not using this as a comparison to s*** on Big Boi, because he is much much better than Talib Kweli, but for example with Black Star, Mos Def was just more versatile and interesting than Kweli, and I think Andre is similar in comparison to Big Boi, but Big Boi of course is on a way higher level than a Kweli.

But on southernplayalistic I really think Big Boi interestingly enough was better.

Because Big Boi is not as talented a rapper as Andre

Simple as that.

Big Boi is dope but Andre is one of the greatest to ever touch the mic

That's true. But when I look at most top ten lists it feels like so many other things like making songs, albums and how iconic they are is all considered too.

Most people are not making their lists based on verses, even if they should be

And one of the things that @op said that is correct (he did put a lot of bait tho) is that a lot of casuals do like him because of his awkward "weird/introvert" personality that gets people on his side moreso than Big Boi who just ya normal nigga from the South.

Which does leads to a lot of casuals overlooking.

I could make a good case that Eminem and Lil Wayne definitely haven't listened to Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty or a good portion of Big Boi's solo catalog. But yeah, from a technical standpoint they can like Andre because yeah, what he doing is something that can't be replicated.

He out-rapped a pre-woke Killer Mike that was known to be a feature killer during that time on Stankonia bro.

Southernplayalistic he definitely was the better of the 2.

some people say insane s*** because they divorce the context of the artist. liiiiiiikkkkkkkeeeee mmmmaaaaayyyyyybbbbbeeee if you gathered every rapper in a room had them all wear masks or something and you got someone who's never heard rap music before blindfolded them and asked them to pick out their favorites then maaaayyyyyyybbbbbeeeee he doesn't crack top 15...

BUT UHHHH thank god thats not the case and everybody on the planet loves 3 stacks and youre the type that probably gets into heated discussions about why lebron is better than michael. YEAH YEAH WE'VE ALL HEARD THE ARGUMENTS NOW SHUT UP WHILE I WATCH BULLS HIGHLIGHTS AND BANG B.O.B

I just say if I did my personal list of top 10, I'd have to put him with Outkast just cause, I listen to him on Outkast more than I do to his features (which are great, I just don't listen to his features that often)

As far as individual skills as far as Atlanta goes?

Top 3: Cee Lo. Andre. Big Boi.

In that order.

u did this cause i said lebron wasn't goat huh?

Be honest. Do you think Big and Dre on are the exact same level?

List making on KTT? You get a pass for dat

Cee Lo over Young Thug