JaeRell

2y

The fact that y'all believe this dude is sincere with his intentions in this debate is hilarious.

Chilla

2y

I am sincere, b. I know that's hard to believe on an online forum, but some of us do have genuine intentions and at times want to engage in genuine discussions and genuinely want listen to others thoughts and points of views. I have been asking for people to state their thoughts and disagreements throughout the discussion. If you think I have ulterior motives then state them.

The StepFather

2y

Not to me, or who I grew up around. You can keep saying it's different but that's not my experience. What you're responsible for, or have to defend is your property imo

Knx

2y

you're trying to pass of as this intellectual person who is just simply curious and wondering when in fact if you read between the lines, ya can tell youse a bigot.

The StepFather

2y

Bro came back itt quoting smoof

Yeah he one them 💀💀💀

Chilla

2y

Thanks for giving an actual reply and addressing the arguments.

I agree to an extent. Property is obviously not the best word to use to refer to a human being, I absolutely agree. If you take the word by its literal definition, it has a more material connotation (which I stated in my first post in this conversation) so using the word "property" to describe a person can absolutely be seen as degrading because you are degrading them to an object that you own. Totally agree, but words can be used hyperbolically as well , and words can have different meanings depending on the context in which they are used. For example, the word "bitch" is commonly used to refer to women in todays society (to my dismay).

Now find the literal definition of the word "bitch" and tell me how using that word to refer to your woman is not as degrading, if taken literally. If you guys want to be consistent about not using degrading words to refer to other people then you should also be outraged over the use of words like "bitch" because if the word is taken literally, it is referring to your girlfriend as a dog which is also degrading her humanity.

Once again, since it seems disclaimers are needed in this thread: I am not arguing in favour of using the word ”property” to refer to your woman, nor am I arguing in favour of using ”bitch” to refer to your woman. I prefer not to use any of these words to refer to my woman, but I can understand that both these words can be used hyperbolically to refer to your partner. Also, I'm not saying that Tate is or isn't using the word in a literal sense. All I did in my initial post was give scenario where the word property could be used to refer to a partner/woman because that was specifically what the poster I responded to was asking for.

youngtubesteak2

2y

Ngl most of these aren’t that bad. When I read I can hear him saying it comedically. So I’d need context before I judge.

But the last 3-4 quotes are fuuucked up.

youngtubesteak2

2y

Tbh Idgaf bout this nigga Tate anymore but I still dont understand why I got BANNED FOR 5 DAYS because of this.

yall acting like im supporting this dude when I only asked for more context. Dude couldve just dropped the links to where he found these f***in quotes from. I even acknowledged that some of these are f***ed up quotes.

Somehow I'm an idiot for that. Absolutely insane.

youngtubesteak2

2y

Matter fact, f*** this thread

how yall let a corrupt mod back on the staff????

Knx

2y

so you did care about him?

b****.

youngtubesteak2

2y

I’m saying I just don’t care to ask any more questions about this s***.

So Suck my d*** you b**** ass nigga.

amiriasshole

2y

Wiretaps come out saying the broads planned the whole thing

sonyatv

2y

source

sonyatv

2y

since youre not gonna post it @amiriasshole , i'll do it for you

its f***ing nojumper and raphouse tv

please give these pages a read. 🙂
https://guides.monmouth.edu/media_literacy/evaluating_sources
https://hbl.gcc.libguides.com/research/credible
https://guides.library.harvard.edu/fake

Everest

2y

i'm looking into it now.

no jumper and raphouse tv are framing it in a 'the girls lied! wiretaps showed it. free tate! women lie and men are innocent!' but the pics weren't from them, coming from this romanian site which is like a tabloid tmz site

https://spynews.ro/actualitate/stiri-interne/interceptari-incredibile-cu-victimele-fratilor-tate-documente-exclusive-300060.html

texts from two women who are part of the investigation

this site is also sharing it with the frame of the tates being innocent, so its hard to tell what the real context of the images are.

all of it looks like the 'lying' 'acting' 'playing dumb' being discussed is lying to the tates and not specifically to police or the court. 0 evidence of them lying to police, which is how its being shared.

if the pics are real, it doesn't exactly show innocence in the tates. you could easily see it as two women trying to escape the situation and expose the tates.

the only accounts spreading it are FreeTopG 'news blogs' and their framing does look make the texts look odd, but this doesn't show 100% scott free innocence. people are suspecting that tate's lawyers sent this to the news outlet.

the courts/abuse psychologists who were working with multiple women and concluded abuse, stockholm syndrome and coercion.

people are (hopefully not but probably) gonna run with these screenshots and reignite this whole thing but we should wait till the court releases everything/makes a decision to see what is what

there is so much evidence on the side of the tates being guilty, idk if some screenshots of texts of two girls looking to expose them and blow up the story negates all that. you could read the texts as victims trying to expose them and escape

they're definitely bad looking texts though (again, if all the context and framing is real) but 0 lying to police is implicated, only lying to tates.

Ralo

2y

You already know Tate's stupid cult followers are gonna push this bullshit. Just like the "there's no evidence" comments all over social media