this is the mO though, tate stans act purposefully dumb because they like his views, they act like everyone takes him out of context and he’s actually a misunderstood strong man that everyone hates because he’s simply saying what everyone is afraid to say

it’s in the same vein of Joe Rogan, Peterson, Shapiro etc.

Idk what side this nigga on. One day he half Kemetic, then another day he's a liberal. I think definitions are the least of our worries. There seems to be a healthy amount of cognitive dissonance on here lol

Is it Oochie Wally or One Mic?

You gotta be a historian of these clowns for guys to listen and even then they’ll just start spouting “innocent until proven guilty” chatgpt prompts

Imma be honest with you, you've been confused in terms of my contribution to this thread. I'm only saying dude using the word "property" wrong and is using definitions that only support his perspective. Which others itt came to support blindly. You don't wanna be lumped in with P3D

All that left and right s*** is a farce, idc about that. The ones who do are conveniently exclusionary of differing thoughts, do be careful with that

Thanks for giving an actual reply and addressing the arguments.

I agree to an extent. Property is obviously not the best word to use to refer to a human being, I absolutely agree. If you take the word by its literal definition, it has a more material connotation (which I stated in my first post in this conversation) so using the word "property" to describe a person can absolutely be seen as degrading because you are degrading them to an object that you own. Totally agree, but words can be used hyperbolically as well , and words can have different meanings depending on the context in which they are used. For example, the word "bitch" is commonly used to refer to women in todays society (to my dismay).

Now find the literal definition of the word "bitch" and tell me how using that word to refer to your woman is not as degrading, if taken literally. If you guys want to be consistent about not using degrading words to refer to other people then you should also be outraged over the use of words like "bitch" because if the word is taken literally, it is referring to your girlfriend as a dog which is also degrading her humanity.

Once again, since it seems disclaimers are needed in this thread: I am not arguing in favour of using the word ”property” to refer to your woman, nor am I arguing in favour of using ”bitch” to refer to your woman. I prefer not to use any of these words to refer to my woman, but I can understand that both these words can be used hyperbolically to refer to your partner. Also, I'm not saying that Tate is or isn't using the word in a literal sense. All I did in my initial post was give scenario where the word property could be used to refer to a partner/woman because that was specifically what the poster I responded to was asking for.

Nah, I just think you all that are arguing are being intellectually dishonest and condescending. It's wild that you don't think Tate deserves any plausible deniability, but idk what he did

Passing judgement and virtue signaling on a forum is sure to bring Tate to justice, right?

I'm just saying y'all using words wrong

And I don’t disagree with anything you say, but the term property is more derogatory than my b**** or any other “isms, and like another poster said, Tate stans will legit spin it like he’s using it as a synonym for my girl etc in that same vein; Tate however very likely believes women are his property and has essentially gone on record to say so. Edit: I disagree on one point though: none of me and my buddies would ever describe a woman as our property so your blanket statement about anyone who disagrees with that usage of the word has never grown up around niggas is nonsense its a respect thing.

I don't care about the subjectivity of something being deemed derogatory. I wasn't arguing for Tate, just the technicality of using the word property in reference to people.

Even in the sense if he was running an escort service or whatever he was doing, is indicative of ownership. I never made any moral arguments for or against this

And once again FOR ME people being referred to property is not inherently bad. The variables that come with that are what's questionable. People have been property since the Sumerians, idk why niggas catching feelings now

To the point you disagree with, it's still hyperbole. Just like my niggas use words that imply ownership, yours do not. That does not affect my claim, just your experience. Because once again your morality is not mine. What's respectful to you, may not be to me. And the dictionary agrees so, it's just semantics atp 🤷🏿‍♂️

they still yappin?

As the OP of this thread, could you give me your thoughts on why you think referring to your woman as "my property" is more derogatory than "my b****"? It's a genuine question. I am trying to understand your point of view and pinpoint what exactly it is that we disagree on. I don't like the use of any of these words to refer to women or people.

For me, property is pretty open and shut. It's housing and personal property (often intangible things like insurance). I respect you trying to ameliorate it like we as a culture did "bitch"

Some things we have no say on - like how hard Prodigy's Smack My B**** Up went - but consciously we can now all make a decision not to call people property. Why not take that? We lost the war on my b**** but the battle for my property is now in

We got Feds itt

I appreciate your response and I agree with pretty much all of it. Thanks for addressing my actual point(s) and sharing your thoughts. Have a great day.

I don’t like either term either, but the connotations of using the word property to refer to a human being or pet reduces them to inferior beings, or if I’m speaking plainly- akin to slaves. B**** is still derogatory but I understand it’s use culturally more. It isn’t as black and white as the word property- again though, this is semantics and it isn’t the point of this thread at all so let’s agree to disagree and get back on topic. Hopefully he ends up jailed long term.

Wow healthy discourse itt, I'm proud ktt.

he still locked up?

Understood. All good. Thanks for the response.

Mfs going hard to call women property itt

The fact that y'all believe this dude is sincere with his intentions in this debate is hilarious.

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