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  • Jun 29, 2021
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    Jugern0t

    So I am new to manga... But do you guys actually like Manhwa? I am asking because often times they start out great. But then I see they have 300+ chapters. In my opinion there are very little manga or any similar comics from other countries that could ever be good after soo many chapters

    Yes

    though it depends on the Manhwa.

    I don't read GOH for a riveting story, I read it for the fights/combat, and that hasn't dropped in quality over the 300+ chapters. The storytelling definitely has suffered a bit though.

  • Jun 29, 2021
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    flizzy

    MHA director gets creative freedom? What is he doing exactly lol?

    Um anyway I don't think the directors are the bad guys overworking the artists. It's the studios who order anime and set the dead lines. So there's still a producer determining these things like how the anime would be promoted, how many episodes it should have and when it will be aired.

    So studios taking on less anime and not overworking artists to death shouldn't change the director's role. Anime should be created the same only under reasonable pressure and time limits.

    I feel like if they’re able to add new scenes or decide the order or the arcs to adapt, that is due to creative control

    It would be logical to take on less anime but unfortunately, they want to make money. So they’re only going to want to make more and more anime. This is why I feel once we get to a point where animators are paid better and there’s more out there in these studios, it’ll only be because these studios will be s***ting out tons of corporate mediocre anime and we will never see creative ones dropping.

  • Jun 29, 2021
    Jugern0t

    So I am new to manga... But do you guys actually like Manhwa? I am asking because often times they start out great. But then I see they have 300+ chapters. In my opinion there are very little manga or any similar comics from other countries that could ever be good after soo many chapters

    Also, if a popular work has like 250-300 chapters that seems pretty normal tbh. I went to check my list to see how long most of the stuff (that I've documented, at least) was and it ended up being around there.

    Problem is when you have manga that aren't like One Piece and maintain the quality over 1000 chapters, like Hajime no Ippo (which has been snooze for arcs at a time in recent years)

  • Jun 29, 2021
    hayabusa

    hard for me to rate it from the old anime since i dont remember much from it but one complaint that ive seen for the new one is that the pacing is too fast and it definitely feels like that. the animation also isnt the best as well. id say its ok for what it is

    It is pacing too fast. It is episode 10 and they have passed the prelim phase of the Shaman Fight. Like hello.

    No development for Yoh, Ren, Horo or anyone.

    Really, really sad about this tbh.

  • Jun 29, 2021
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    Reformed

    I feel like if they’re able to add new scenes or decide the order or the arcs to adapt, that is due to creative control

    It would be logical to take on less anime but unfortunately, they want to make money. So they’re only going to want to make more and more anime. This is why I feel once we get to a point where animators are paid better and there’s more out there in these studios, it’ll only be because these studios will be s***ting out tons of corporate mediocre anime and we will never see creative ones dropping.

    what is an example of a corporate mediocre anime lol

  • Jun 29, 2021
    Scatt

    recommend some manga like berserk

    Vinland Saga - Guts story in a viking setting

    Houseki no Kuni - causes shambles too but at a cosmic level

    Kingdom - it's like the early Golden Age arc where it focuses on military, wars all that but at a bigger scale. Takes place during the ancient china period

    Blade of the Immortal - MC is a lot like Guts but this one is a samurai story

  • Jun 29, 2021
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    orangejuice

    what is an example of a corporate mediocre anime lol

    Japan Sinks
    The Promised Neverland
    B the Beginning
    Carole and Tuesday

    P much whatever is coming from Netflix tbh

  • Jun 29, 2021
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    Jugern0t

    So I am new to manga... But do you guys actually like Manhwa? I am asking because often times they start out great. But then I see they have 300+ chapters. In my opinion there are very little manga or any similar comics from other countries that could ever be good after soo many chapters

    Honestly the webtoon format these manhwas have is kind of like cheating because they have more empty background than viewers would realize. The average content told in a chapter is a lot less than what is done in a manga. Maybe like 8 to 12 manga pages

    Also peep A Wonderful New World. That's my favorite manhwa

  • Jun 29, 2021
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    aglow

    Is Vinland Saga S2 coming out this year?

    Special Vinland saga announcement on July 26, could be a s2

    But almost certainly not this year

  • Jun 29, 2021

    The horse girls are unstoppable.

  • Jun 29, 2021
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    Reformed

    Japan Sinks
    The Promised Neverland
    B the Beginning
    Carole and Tuesday

    P much whatever is coming from Netflix tbh

    My thoughts on this are: only one of those is adapted from an original source material, and I'm not sure what crack the producers of the show were smoking when they wrote season 2.

    Most anime are going to be adapted from source material (because it's easier to market off of a popular/rising manga/LN than it is to market and gamble on an anime original being good)

    So even if wages rise, I don't think we'll be stuck with a bunch of mid Netflix originals.

  • Jun 29, 2021
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    Reformed

    Japan Sinks
    The Promised Neverland
    B the Beginning
    Carole and Tuesday

    P much whatever is coming from Netflix tbh

    Do you consider the ~40 anime per year that Kadokawa wants to produce as corporate?

    Do you consider anime adaptations of the most popular shounen jump series by Mappa to be corporate?

  • Jun 29, 2021
    DMWR

    Special Vinland saga announcement on July 26, could be a s2

    But almost certainly not this year

  • Jun 29, 2021
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    Tranquility

    Do you consider the ~40 anime per year that Kadokawa wants to produce as corporate?

    Do you consider anime adaptations of the most popular shounen jump series by Mappa to be corporate?

    These are corporate only in the number, but it’s clear when you see the kind of anime being made that there is a lot respect for the creatives to make what they want and their styles are retained. Like when it comes to the Netflix anime, every anime they produce, you just get this very restricted feel to all of them. They all seem watered down and they all follow a generic structure of being around 11-13 eps. It’s not like Re:Zeros first season where you will get 25 eps that allow for changing up entire post credits sequences or literally getting a drastic boost in the animation quality randomly for a crazy fight scene in the latter half of the season.

    Yeah they’re corporate in the number of anime they want to produce, but they aren’t restricting these creatives to make only one type of anime and they let a lot of their directors do exactly what they want. With the Netflix anime, s*** is so watered down and you can tell the creatives are being told to make this s*** safe.

    Again, I don’t think it’s the issue of POPULARITY or QUANTITY. It’s the issue of creativity and it’s just obvious with Netflix that creatives are heavily restricted. This is also why when it comes to movies and TV, they force the filmmakers to shoot with only one kind of camera because they require a 4K mandate. This is why all their s*** has the exact same visual aesthetic. Netflix is a death haven for creativity

  • Jun 29, 2021
    DMWR

    Special Vinland saga announcement on July 26, could be a s2

    But almost certainly not this year

    damn, we need this show back asap. szn 1 was a banger

  • Jun 29, 2021
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    orangejuice

    My thoughts on this are: only one of those is adapted from an original source material, and I'm not sure what crack the producers of the show were smoking when they wrote season 2.

    Most anime are going to be adapted from source material (because it's easier to market off of a popular/rising manga/LN than it is to market and gamble on an anime original being good)

    So even if wages rise, I don't think we'll be stuck with a bunch of mid Netflix originals.

    Well whether or not it’s coming from a source material, the execution alone is very restrictive

    You can tell the hard cut requirement for the promised neverland seasons to be 12 eps a season is what led to s2 being a train wreck

    Similarly even when C&T was allowed to be 2 cour, it likely ended up being Watanabes worst work because of repetitive and surface level it was and I feel a lot of Netflix anime in general have this problem. Even Violet Evergarden, despite its fantastic animation, had this exact issue as well

    I’m really just going off of Netflix because I think for wages to get better, that’s what studios will have to turn into

  • Jun 29, 2021
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    Reformed

    These are corporate only in the number, but it’s clear when you see the kind of anime being made that there is a lot respect for the creatives to make what they want and their styles are retained. Like when it comes to the Netflix anime, every anime they produce, you just get this very restricted feel to all of them. They all seem watered down and they all follow a generic structure of being around 11-13 eps. It’s not like Re:Zeros first season where you will get 25 eps that allow for changing up entire post credits sequences or literally getting a drastic boost in the animation quality randomly for a crazy fight scene in the latter half of the season.

    Yeah they’re corporate in the number of anime they want to produce, but they aren’t restricting these creatives to make only one type of anime and they let a lot of their directors do exactly what they want. With the Netflix anime, s*** is so watered down and you can tell the creatives are being told to make this s*** safe.

    Again, I don’t think it’s the issue of POPULARITY or QUANTITY. It’s the issue of creativity and it’s just obvious with Netflix that creatives are heavily restricted. This is also why when it comes to movies and TV, they force the filmmakers to shoot with only one kind of camera because they require a 4K mandate. This is why all their s*** has the exact same visual aesthetic. Netflix is a death haven for creativity

    My head f***ing hurts. Netflix isn't even on the production committee for the majority of the anime on their platform. The anime was already green-lit by the production committee and nothing about the show would change whether it was Netflix, Crunchyroll, or whatever other streaming service bought the rights to it. I'm convinced you're just an elaborate troll at this point.

  • Me next year when Chainsaw Man, AoT S4 Part 2, JJK Shibuya Arc and MHA next szn airs

  • Jun 29, 2021
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    Wisdom

    It can’t be over

    Fruits basket what a show

    MS HONDA
    Everyone loves you

    Why didn’t we get to see the final banquet

  • Jun 29, 2021
    Tranquility

    My head f***ing hurts. Netflix isn't even on the production committee for the majority of the anime on their platform. The anime was already green-lit by the production committee and nothing about the show would change whether it was Netflix, Crunchyroll, or whatever other streaming service bought the rights to it. I'm convinced you're just an elaborate troll at this point.

    What they green light is very indicative of what they want to see. You really think Netflix has no say when they’re putting up the money? You sound delusional af

    Again I’m not sure what makes you think Netflix or guys from Netflix have to be attached as producers, because they rarely ever are even on Netflix originals. You realize most production committees come from the creator’s side right? We almost never see names associated with Netflix credited for producing. But they still get to pick what they want to fund and they get to negotiate whatever restrictions or creative decisions they want to make when they put down that money for distribution.

  • Jun 29, 2021

    That show made me heart warm

    F***

    So selfless

    Restarted AoT and...

    Hm everything does make sense with time now. Not everything but a lot.

    Anime only

  • Jun 29, 2021
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    I have one question though

    In the credits of last season fruits baskets who was that in the first pic with the grey hair?

  • Jun 29, 2021
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    Wisdom

    MS HONDA
    Everyone loves you

    Why didn’t we get to see the final banquet

    Would’ve been nice to see the goodbye party or something but still a perf ending for me <3

    There’s also gonna be a spin off with Tohru’s mom so that’s gonna be nice. 2022 I think

  • Jun 29, 2021
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    Wisdom

    I have one question though

    In the credits of last season fruits baskets who was that in the first pic with the grey hair?

    That looks like Mitsuru, Shigure's editor that yells alot

  • Jun 29, 2021
    DMWR

    That looks like Mitsuru, Shigure's editor that yells alot

    Ohhhhhh that’s right! Thanks fam