not the same? sure, could have potentially been better even considering that prime Kanye f***ing West lol

Ye hates anybody willing to disagree with him

Thats not trye, check Valentines responses

Nah my understanding is that he mixed a lot of the album and put his hands on various other things:

“Knowing that made me feel good. Like, ‘Man this is Dr. Dre!’ He knows all the frequencies. He knows what pockets to put all the sounds in and he knows what’s missing. When the full album is done he can just hear and know it’s missing some hi-hats here. He can make you get back and ad-lib. There’s no one better than Dre.”

“In a room with Stargate, that s*** was like detention”

And this is where we get to the core of things

Cole actually help executive produce 444 in a round about way btw

After hearing J Coles side of things and how bad the label aka Jay Z f***ed up his debut Id be curious to hear Seans situation.

I mean he said himself that Detroit is one of his best projects and a lot of people agree, he also said that was all him / his team with no label politics

Nah based on the info that came out years later

Sean and Ye was a financial issue were debts wasn’t being paid

I think that has more to do with Ye turning on Sean over the years even if we didn’t know what was happening behind the scenes then

Ali who they talking about in that Terrace clip specifically said that Dr. Dre redid the entire album from scratch. Terrace literally said he walked in the studio at the later Dre sessions lol. he probably just not saying the entire story plus it’s a clip

I think Cole worked out as far as success goes, but I think Hov really wanted to mentor Drake under the Roc. Just like Ye was still under Roc-A-Fella in the early 10s, Drake would've been under that same banner I bet. Cole got put under Roc Nation, like any other artist under Hov.

You should listen to the inevitable podcast he did. Basically Jay Z was turning him into a cuck for a single and he went through the lowest period in his life chasing a radio hit and details why Sideline Story sounds drastically different from everything before that.

Drake and Coles squads were all chopping it up at a Jay Z Lebron event and told Drake to give Cole a hit in front of everyone thats how bad it got

HOV wanted Ye, Wayne, Drake and Cole all under Roc Nation to push Tidal more than likely then that’s what led to the fallout between Wayne and Birdman because Jay put Wayne on game. there’s so much history last 10-15 years lol

If Hov got Ye, Drake, Wayne and Lupe under Roc like he wanted that would’ve been some infinity stones type s*** but who knows if they would’ve blew up the same way

Go to Jay Zs top songs on any platform and theyre all songs he’s featured on besides New York

Tbh I think Jay Z secretly has protected himself from the album sales talk his last couple albums through the Tidal deal and being in control of those numbers to the Samsung deal and “selling a million copies”

Yeah, I think Cole was going to always be on Roc, but if he had to trade Cole for Drake, he would've did it with no hesitation, even before Thank Me Later. Wayne on Roc wouldn't have worked, I don't care.

it’s kinda crazy how much richer Jay would be right now if Sprint didn’t fold. Tidal woulda sold for 10x what it sold lol

that nigga definitely finessed the numbers tho you right

What do you mean Cole is not doing a lot for his signees? I feel like he does

So you’re pretending this wasn’t a thing:

Blueprint 3 is goated tho

I think he's mistaken because ali said dre helped with the mix

He said this about swimming pools

“That song was actually fun to mix. Me and Dr. Dre mixed that one. The beat is real open so you can kind of do whatever you want to it, as far as messing with the vocals. So I was just playing with some delays, some reverbs, tweak it out make it sound real eerie.

He also said there was early versions of the album that was different before dre came in

Him sabotaging Pablo still pisses me off

LMAO

Cole's main thought was probably just, "why did this nigga sign me?"

I slightly agree. He’s been bulletproof with number ones and going platinum but i think it’s more that he’s about his money and he’s guaranteeing that he’s X amount of money off each album