Portvaldes

5y

Immune system f***ed in the long run

The vaccine is making the virus more deadly and may make corona actually a significantly deadly threat for the vaccinated.

https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2021.26.39.2100822

In Israel, peer reviewed science has found vaccinated people getting hospitalized more severely. They gained minor protection but that was waning. Israel was one of the first countries to get mass vaccinated, and they are now invalidating vaccine passports for any who has gone 6 months since their second dose. The boosters expire in 6 months as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibody-dependent_enhancement?wprov=sfti1

“Antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE), sometimes less precisely called immune enhancement or disease enhancement, is a phenomenon in which binding of a virus to suboptimal antibodies enhances its entry into host cells, followed by its replication. The suboptimal antibodies can result from natural infection or from vaccination.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytokine_storm?wprov=sfti1

“A cytokine storm, also called hypercytokinemia, is a physiological reaction in humans and other animals in which the innate immune system causes an uncontrolled and excessive release of pro-inflammatory signaling molecules called cytokines. Normally, cytokines are part of the body's immune response to infection, but their sudden release in large quantities can cause multisystem organ failure and death.”

No previous mRNA vaccine was approved because they all failed in phase three trials (which were shortened during covid), mostly due to ADE and subsequent cytokine storms. These things only happen after time has passed after the antibodies have been made, hence why Israel is starting to show it now, since they were early adopters.

The vaccine is likely causing ADE with subsequent exposures for individuals who have taken the vaccine a long time ago, and that will likely be intensified with boosters. We didn’t test long enough for such symptoms to appear and we justified that with “it’s a pandemic”.

The major concern is the development of conditions for cytokine storms to form after more booster cycles, as those are quite deadly.

Chloe

5y

link to study

regardless, this doesn’t make his post make sense

notglasspopcorn

5y

only speculation regarding the third shot https://www.statnews.com/2021/09/07/how-risk-side-effects-could-change-covid-19-vaccine-boosters/

notglasspopcorn

5y

yeah but then it comes down to people who already had it, should they really risk the side effects especially ones that could effect the heart?

lil ufo

5y

they pay the vaccines from tax money, taxes are paid by us, that's my guess
also I have never knew anyone dying from covid (nor side effects) but I saw they are reporting heart issues in young people (also a lot of athletes collapses during performances), and I have a high blood pressure and I don't want to risk myself with that tbh

gh0stman

5y

Did u say u never heard of someone dying from covid? I definitely read that wrong right

master chief

5y

Lol I went and took a midterm and you guys are still going

gabapentin

5y

i can see how you can hate them but i dont see how you can say they're underhated unless you're usually surrounded by anti vaxx folk

among the most hated groups out rn

OnyxShine9

5y

As someone who has no strong opinions for or against the vaccine. I really don’t care either way. I already got it and got over it and all my loved ones are already accounted for, so... I don’t waste too much energy on the topic.
As someone who also spends a lot of time surfing the web, I rarely see any of the extreme vocal antivax boogeymen KTT2 goes on and on about. But the extreme remarks about not caring about them dying, needing to lose their jobs and be separated from society, I find very distateful and ignorant... especially when they don’t keep the same energy for precautions against other, more common, and equally threatening illnesses.
I find any extreme remarks on either side a sign of poor character but I primarily see them on this site.

Just copied and pasted my last thoughts on this subject.

Warrior

5y

The problem is that the antivaxx people are way louder than the rest. Every single survey shows 75%+ (at least in Toronto where I'm at) of people want vaccines and mandates but under every COVID related ig post the top comments are always antivaxx.

notglasspopcorn

5y

if there is treatments that stop it from replicating then it does in a sense go away, atleast the currently fear of it. I dont think we should treat people who are anti vax in a negative way tho because I understand vaccine hesitancy and side effects are heavily under reported.

OnyxShine9

5y

As someone who has no strong opinions for or against the vaccine. I really don’t care either way. I already got it and got over it and all my loved ones are already accounted for, so... I don’t waste too much energy on the topic.
As someone who also spends a lot of time surfing the web, I rarely see any of the extreme vocal antivax boogeymen KTT2 goes on and on about. But the extreme remarks about not caring about them dying, needing to lose their jobs and be separated from society, I find very distateful and ignorant... especially when they don’t keep the same energy for precautions against other, more common, and equally threatening illnesses.
I find any extreme remarks on either side a sign of poor character but I primarily see them on this site.

Just copied and pasted my last thoughts on this subject.

Portvaldes

5y

Same p**** KTT tactic, make a thread crying about something, get logically sonned, tell the guy who sonned you to relax or say ‘why do you care so much’

Go read a book

Portvaldes

5y

a new brainlet has entered the arena

ny bookers

5y

We should legally be allowed to put our hands on people who are anti vaxx

Portvaldes

5y

Lmaooo the ‘brightest minds on earth’ just put trillions of dollars into a fake war started for oil and imperialism and then lied to you about it the whole time while killing millions

‘The brightest minds on earth’ at pfizer are the most sued individuals on earth for experimenting on Nigerian children, bribing doctors and hiding 30 years of adverse effects

‘The brightest minds on earth’ at Johnson and Johnson are responsible for 1 million cancers via SV40 and 200000 ovarian cancer cases via talcum powder

You are the absolute nut and moron for blindly trusting these people who have already profited $40 billion from your sheepishness, these people who lobby Congress and media to do their bidding, imagine thinking you’re on the right side of history for bowing to that

F***in naive cucks

FRANK DUX

5y

please come to Harlem with this energy I dare you I’ll buy you lunch

Chloe

5y

your same link says

The vast majority of the cases investigated so far have been mild compared to cases of myocarditis tied to other causes, including viral infections. And a recent study from Israel found that there was a higher risk of myocarditis associated with a Covid-19 infection than with a Covid-19 vaccine.

to say it’s a heavy increase is an overstatement imo
and if it is an immune reaction (like they’re hypothesising) they’ll figure out ways to adapt probably

i’ve spent a decent amount of time reading about the heart related side effects cause my bestie has a defibrillator