Em has mentioned it before in a shade45 interview back in the day. Even jay has talked about it briefly

Yeah Jay said “Really? I didn’t know that” when a radio host told him that

Nice! Got a link to source?

soundonsound.com/people/inside-track-kendrick-lamars-pimp-butterfly

I was wondering Jay but doesn’t that go against his whole “Jay waits to hear a beat and then starts mumbling and writing in his head right there”

Word? Source?

Yeah?

Maybe I thought I saw something about jay saying he writes in his head all the time and think of lines and string them together when he hears a beat

I think it’s because in rap it’s so rooted in our heads that:

Rapper gets beat from producer
Rapper writes to beat
Rapper records & finishes song

Like people think it’s basically impossible to write raps with no beats because then your verse won’t have a good flow and won’t match the beat

But to me it doesn’t sound hard, if you’re a good rapper and are in tune with rhythm then when you write you already have a flow in mind. And then from there it’s just a matter of figuring out what BPM works.

So say it’s a 90BPM verse. Get a kick and snare and set em to 90bpm and then edit the verse a little to make sure everything is on beat perfectly (which is just a matter of adding or removing a few syllables if needed)
and then from there you can have a producer build sounds to go with your verse.

I can essentially see someone who writes before having a beat working sorta in this kinda way.

so that's why this is the only Dre song that's not 80-100 bpm

For late Registration he would write his raps in his head. If I'm not mistaken he would try them out for different songs till it felt right like gold digger started out as the 18 years def jam Freestyle then when he linked up with john brion they crafted the beat and lay the vocals, but to fair they might have not crafted the beat around the lyrics like dna

And for MBDTF like u said mamas boyfriend was one but I think he did some more

I’ve seen that too and how he’ll “download” meaning he’ll have Guru pull up a metronome or simple drum loop so he can record his verse and not forget it

But what I’m wondering is does he save these to add to beats later? Cus then that would go along with what I’m saying too huh?

Lotta conflicting info. Some people make it sound like “Man Jay comes in hears a beat, mumbles for 15 minutes and then bam his verse is done”

But then I’ve also heard that he writes in his head all the time and then at times comes to Guru to “download” and usually it’s not over beats.

So what I’m thinking is a lot of the times when Jay is “mumbling” he’s actually remembering something he’s pre-written and seeing how it feels on the current beat being played

Lol is that a meme or fact? All Dre songs are 80-100 bpm only

only others I can think of are talk about it, deep water and for the love of money

etc

nah I was sayin those were the only others that weren't 80-100bpm that I could think of

Pusha verse on Feel The Love was a different beat, you can hear trap hi-hat spill from his headphones.
The same with “Futura Free” by Frank Ocean

replied to a wrong post at first

Lmao that’s dope. He knows his sweet spot as far as tempos go. I’m remember Joe Budden said something like “Kanye and Pusha love that mid tempo 80-90bpm range”

basically 90% of east and west hip hop was 80-100 bpm back then

Speaking on Frank I know with CO he wrote all the music first and then recorded I believe and then had the guys build the production around it

Actually that would make the most sense since a lot of times when you Freestyle you're using pre existing rhymes, flow, bars, etc that you done before and changed it up

Honestly think my favorite songs are in that range

also did clipse record their verses on use this gospel over a different beat? Cause it sounds like they recorded it over a regular trap beat but Kanye just put them over the melody which has a lot of swing so it felt like they were offbeat