Oblivion X

5y

Actually that would make the most sense since a lot of times when you Freestyle you're using pre existing rhymes, flow, bars, etc that you done before and changed it up

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5y

Honestly think my favorite songs are in that range

gin and juice

5y

then you should love Tyga, YG and G-Eazy lmao

for some reason girls are crazy for 100bpm rap tempo

AStevieWonderBlink

5y

also did clipse record their verses on use this gospel over a different beat? Cause it sounds like they recorded it over a regular trap beat but Kanye just put them over the melody which has a lot of swing so it felt like they were offbeat

AStevieWonderBlink

5y

I don't think I've ever heard a song by tyga that wasn't in that tempo range

MyLeftBrain

5y

I don’t know any facts that points to that, but Kanye is known to take verse/hooks from demo/unreleased songs and place them in new songs.

Jay-Z verse on “Never Let Me Down” was an old verse from an unreleased song that Kanye took and put in his song

drdre

5y

Where did u see that? I remember seeing Em mention this in a couple different interviews

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5y

So it’s not far fetch to believe he has a lot of the lyrics planned out/written before any beat?

I know in other genres most writers will write with a piano or guitar. I guess with rap it’s rare because flows and being in pocket is such a big thing

But I read somewhere that if you’re truly a great rapper you are naturally rhythmic and have an “internal metronome” meaning you can formulate flows and dope lyrics and have it all be in pocket without a beat playing.

I kinda picture that from Kendrick. It’s like he hears the entire thing in his head first then creates it second.

MyLeftBrain

5y

I don’t know any facts that points to that, but Kanye is known to take verse/hooks from demo/unreleased songs and place them in new songs.

Jay-Z verse on “Never Let Me Down” was an old verse from an unreleased song that Kanye took and put in his song

LordPrettyFlackoJR

5y

My Name Is was written before hand too

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5y

Young Guru: “Jay writes in his head, so we have times where he goes, ‘I need to download.’ He doesn’t call it that, but that’s what I call it. There’s so much stuff in his head that sometimes he just raps to a hi-hat or to a click or to nothing because he’s writing songs and he needs to remember them so he’ll record them. So it’s like, take that out the brain until I need it again. I can put it back in there when I need to say it.

So that means those rhymes he’s “downloading” he wrote with no beat huh? Cus if it was written to a specific beat why not just have Guru pull it up instead of loading some hi hats or metronome

Damn it also says “or he’ll just rap to nothing”

Uhoh

5y

Eminem probs the same

LordPrettyFlackoJR

5y

Same way he wrote The Way i Am on a plane blank before making a beat to it

Oblivion X

5y

I think jay, nas and wayne do this a lot

Delejayn

5y

I don’t think Hov or Wayne does this. They just go off top i think.

Delejayn

5y

I don’t think Hov or Wayne does this. They just go off top i think.

gin and juice

5y

so that's why this is the only Dre song that's not 80-100 bpm

Oblivion X

5y

See my later posts, theres a quote about hov writing like all the time mentally in his head. Wayne tho I'm not too sure it seems like something he would do Freestyle then have his producers put on a beat with his insane work ethic it makes sense

Delejayn

5y

It’s crazy whenever you read about Kendrick’s process from albums to videos to individual tracks most of his collaborators say he already has everything planned out. It’s almost like a mad scientist. I would love to one day see him in that creative space.

The making a song without a beat is pretty common for other genres I think but in rap it’s definitely rare to see.

gin and juice

5y

so that's why this is the only Dre song that's not 80-100 bpm

MyLeftBrain

5y

Pusha verse on Feel The Love was a different beat, you can hear trap hi-hat spill from his headphones.
The same with “Futura Free” by Frank Ocean

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5y

Where these sources lol

AStevieWonderBlink

5y

also did clipse record their verses on use this gospel over a different beat? Cause it sounds like they recorded it over a regular trap beat but Kanye just put them over the melody which has a lot of swing so it felt like they were offbeat

rhyming rhino

5y

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Yes I think they definitely recorded on another beat. When the album first dropped Pusha’s verse was HORRIBLY off beat like they didn’t even try. Sounded like it was just pasted off another song. The leak community also says that Victory Boyd sang the verses in an OG version of the song & that Clipse wasn’t even on it.