Bandito

3y

Apple Music’s payment rate for artists and labels is a penny per stream on average, according to a letter from the company posted on its artist dashboard, viewed by The Verge, and first reported by the Wall Street Journal. (And now posted in full at 9to5 Mac.) That payment rate is higher than Spotify, which has a confusing variable rate scheme that basically tops out at a half-penny per stream. Apple says in the letter that its rates vary by subscription plan and country but average to a penny-per-stream.

Announcing an average penny-per-stream rate is a nice PR win for Apple Music, since it is 1. very simple and 2. Spotify hates talking about its per-stream payments, which the company insists are a misleading figure. Seriously, it just launched an entire website called Loud&Clear last month designed to help artists and fans understand how payments work, and a good chunk of it is devoted to explaining why per-stream rates are not the right thing to focus on. It’s a lot of copy like this:

In the streaming era, fans do not pay per song and services do not pay per stream, so we don’t believe a “per stream rate” is a meaningful number to a***yze. Still, we understand that artists find it useful to calculate an effective “per stream” rate or, in other words, a revenue-to-streams ratio — dividing the total size of the royalty pool on Spotify (the numerator) by the total number of music streams on Spotify (the denominator). Both of these numbers are growing incredibly quickly every year.

There are a number of factors that contribute to that ratio looking small, which we understand can seem problematic.
Right. It is important to note that Spotify runs a massive ad-supported music service with very different economics to the paid Spotify Premium tier, while Apple Music only offers a paid service. And Spotify is way bigger, with 345 million total users, of which 155 million are paying Spotify Premium customers. (It’s hard to put good numbers on how big Apple Music is currently; the company’s last public number is “more than 60 million subscribers” from June 2019, and more recent estimates have it at 72 million.)

https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/16/22387453/apple-music-artist-payment-rate-per-stream-vs-spotify

Bandito

3y

Apple Music’s payment rate for artists and labels is a penny per stream on average, according to a letter from the company posted on its artist dashboard, viewed by The Verge, and first reported by the Wall Street Journal. (And now posted in full at 9to5 Mac.) That payment rate is higher than Spotify, which has a confusing variable rate scheme that basically tops out at a half-penny per stream. Apple says in the letter that its rates vary by subscription plan and country but average to a penny-per-stream.

Announcing an average penny-per-stream rate is a nice PR win for Apple Music, since it is 1. very simple and 2. Spotify hates talking about its per-stream payments, which the company insists are a misleading figure. Seriously, it just launched an entire website called Loud&Clear last month designed to help artists and fans understand how payments work, and a good chunk of it is devoted to explaining why per-stream rates are not the right thing to focus on. It’s a lot of copy like this:

In the streaming era, fans do not pay per song and services do not pay per stream, so we don’t believe a “per stream rate” is a meaningful number to a***yze. Still, we understand that artists find it useful to calculate an effective “per stream” rate or, in other words, a revenue-to-streams ratio — dividing the total size of the royalty pool on Spotify (the numerator) by the total number of music streams on Spotify (the denominator). Both of these numbers are growing incredibly quickly every year.

There are a number of factors that contribute to that ratio looking small, which we understand can seem problematic.
Right. It is important to note that Spotify runs a massive ad-supported music service with very different economics to the paid Spotify Premium tier, while Apple Music only offers a paid service. And Spotify is way bigger, with 345 million total users, of which 155 million are paying Spotify Premium customers. (It’s hard to put good numbers on how big Apple Music is currently; the company’s last public number is “more than 60 million subscribers” from June 2019, and more recent estimates have it at 72 million.)

https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/16/22387453/apple-music-artist-payment-rate-per-stream-vs-spotify

Swope

3y

these billion dollar corps cant even throw artists 50 cents a stream lmao

Swope

3y

these billion dollar corps cant even throw artists 50 cents a stream lmao

Yung Dagger D

3y

that would be 500k for every million streams bro

Swope

3y

these billion dollar corps cant even throw artists 50 cents a stream lmao

TIIMMY BURNER

3y

Lmao be realistic nigga do you know how much music is on streaming? A lot of streaming services believe it or not are not actually that profitable.

Shockwave

3y

Upload a song through the Amuse mobile app and stream that b****, easiest money in the world. Not super profitable and definitely illegal though

Swope

3y

ok and

etant

3y

Someone doesn't know anything about business

Swope

3y

ok and

Swope

3y

yay for dissecting exploitation!

shane

3y

swope a f***in idiot

Yung Dagger D

3y

that's bad business and do you know how many more scammers would be uploading music to try and get that 500k bag? They would bankrupt the site

Swope

3y

suck my d***

shane

3y

You can suck mine for just 50 cents per sperm you bozo

Swope

3y

these billion dollar corps cant even throw artists 50 cents a stream lmao