drdre

4y

They CAME UP with a figure that’s firstly prone to error and second of all their profit will be the same regardless of how they report on streams and sales. Why do they need to come up with a new sales figure that doesn’t actually reflect the amount of units sold?
If nobody is buying albums anymore and everyone is streaming shouldn’t there not be a SPS chart cos that just makes the artist sound like they’re doing more numbers than they are

Just stick with reporting Streaming numbers then.

quadra

4y

Lmao OP remedial as s***

Lock

safe

4y

Because you’re failing to understand everything I try and tell you so I’m trying different ways for you to get it

Obviously it’s not working so imma head out

drdre

4y

They CAME UP with a figure that’s firstly prone to error and second of all their profit will be the same regardless of how they report on streams and sales. Why do they need to come up with a new sales figure that doesn’t actually reflect the amount of units sold?
If nobody is buying albums anymore and everyone is streaming shouldn’t there not be a SPS chart cos that just makes the artist sound like they’re doing more numbers than they are

Just stick with reporting Streaming numbers then.

drdre

4y

Also stans who live vicariously thru the artist

Or maybe it’s also to make it appear as tho music sales aren’t dying

Honestly how in tf does making up a formula (1500 plays = 1 album purchase) that converts streams to album sales even make sense?

Case in point. Ktt poster on front page remembers VIEWS selling a million. Oh it did but it actually sold 850 because you see the million figure comes from a formula based on sales and streams.... man, what? Do u see how silly that sounds? So he didn’t sell a million! The only reason this formula exists is because of EGO

drdre

4y

What does profit have to do with this? Why did u mention profit?

The profit will be the same regardless of the SPS. SPS is just a formula it’s just a measurement

beast444

4y

"Since streaming was first factored into the rankings four years ago, the ratio has been a strict 1,500 to 1 — it took 1,500 streams to reach the “equivalent” of a single album sale, a number derived from the average revenues that record companies get from clicks on streaming services."

They didn't just come up with a random number lmao

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/09/arts/music/drake-scorpion-streams-billboard-chart.html#:~:text=Since%20streaming%20was%20first%20factored,from%20clicks%20on%20streaming%20services.

CLB Realfam2007

4y

1500 streams generates the same amount of money as an album sale would, that's how idiot.

MiguelMeyerz

4y

If you wanted to listen to one song, you had to buy a whole album, that inflated album sales.

Then you could buy singles, that reduced the number of albums being bought.

Then Piracy. And now there's streaming. It's just called moving with the times.

If 1500 streams of one song, makes 10.99 then it should count and it does. If you don't like it build a time machine.

drdre

4y

Omg I didn’t say it was based on nothing I just said it was made by humans who are prone to error. Nice reading comprehension. Go check my latest post for the most clear agumentb

drdre

4y

Nah that’s u stubborn ass. Hey everybody does this make sense

Lets take OLD TOWN ROAd. Say Nas puts its on his debut. Say no other songs from the album are played even 1% of OTR. Hypothetically. Due to the success of that one song, based on the current metric his album would still have “sold” like 100k or whatever. When NOBODY is listening to the rest - streaming or pure sales wise!!!

Someone clarify this

beast444

4y

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what even is the argument at this point?

You asked us a QUESTION. If you wanted to be all aggressive for no reason, make a statement in the title and op next time don't be a p**** when called out or criticized for your extreme stupidity and misunderstanding of how the world works.

drdre

4y

Lets take OLD TOWN ROAd. Say Nas puts its on his debut. Say no other songs from the album are played even 1% of OTR. Hypothetically. Due to the success of that one song, based on the current metric his album would still have “sold” like 100k or whatever. When NOBODY is listening to the rest - streaming or pure sales wise!!!

drdre

4y

Also stans who live vicariously thru the artist

Or maybe it’s also to make it appear as tho music sales aren’t dying

Honestly how in tf does making up a formula (1500 plays = 1 album purchase) that converts streams to album sales even make sense?

Case in point. Ktt poster on front page remembers VIEWS selling a million. Oh it did but it actually sold 850 because you see the million figure comes from a formula based on sales and streams.... man, what? Do u see how silly that sounds? So he didn’t sell a million! The only reason this formula exists is because of EGO

beast444

4y

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what even is the argument at this point?

You asked us a QUESTION. If you wanted to be all aggressive for no reason, make a statement in the title and op next time don't be a p**** when called out or criticized for your extreme stupidity and misunderstanding of how the world works.

zenirama

4y

So you must have a great idea about how to count streams op why don’t you tell us

safe

4y

It’s not arbitrary lol
That’s the number of streams that on average equals $10 - aka an album price

drdre

4y

Ok but they didn’t actually buy the album. Just cos the price is the same doesn’t mean we can go around saying x Artist sold 150k this week because they didn’t!