Yes? Democrats/politicians aren't God, they can't just wave a magic wand and make everything better. It's a collective effort with the people too. Not to mention the Right undermining policies or downright rejecting them.
For example:
If you go over the income limit for Medicaid or food by just 100 dollars, the government assumes you make enough to pay for your health insurance and food and says 'alright, you're on your own good job' knowing damn well an extra 100 dollars a year isn't enough to cover that. Democrats would like a system that makes more sense, but Republicans won't let it happen.
And that's Republican s***. They purposely put these ridiculous limitations on people in poverty in the name of 'pulling yourself up by your bootstraps'. Republicans already gutted food stamp and health insurance programs to help fund the military.
Republicans are the reason for oppression. They routinely vote in favor of corporations and whatever makes the most money, even if it is at the expense of the working class (ESPECIALLY at our expense. Those f***ers can't wait to throw Americans under the bus) Just look at how America is handling COVID. Every developed nation/renowned expert in the world is baffled and disappointed by our response because we basically said 'Fuck it, the economy is more important' Because to them, making sure the billionaires are comfortable is all that matters.
So while, yes, a lot of white people can be subconsciously racist, are you really gonna side with the Trump supporters who typically live in all white neighborhoods, send their kids to a school district where there's like 20 minorites in the whole student body of 5000 kids, and get real awkward when they have to deal with minorities? Yet these same Trump supporters are trying to be like 'Hey black people, the Dems don't even like you! Look, they've done nothing for you! Join us instead'
Seems ironic huh?
I’m not siding with either I believe in ridding America of the two party system
Yes? Democrats/politicians aren't God, they can't just wave a magic wand and make everything better. It's a collective effort with the people too. Not to mention the Right undermining policies or downright rejecting them.
For example:
If you go over the income limit for Medicaid or food by just 100 dollars, the government assumes you make enough to pay for your health insurance and food and says 'alright, you're on your own good job' knowing damn well an extra 100 dollars a year isn't enough to cover that. Democrats would like a system that makes more sense, but Republicans won't let it happen.
And that's Republican s***. They purposely put these ridiculous limitations on people in poverty in the name of 'pulling yourself up by your bootstraps'. Republicans already gutted food stamp and health insurance programs to help fund the military.
Republicans are the reason for oppression. They routinely vote in favor of corporations and whatever makes the most money, even if it is at the expense of the working class (ESPECIALLY at our expense. Those f***ers can't wait to throw Americans under the bus) Just look at how America is handling COVID. Every developed nation/renowned expert in the world is baffled and disappointed by our response because we basically said 'Fuck it, the economy is more important' Because to them, making sure the billionaires are comfortable is all that matters.
So while, yes, a lot of white people can be subconsciously racist, are you really gonna side with the Trump supporters who typically live in all white neighborhoods, send their kids to a school district where there's like 20 minorites in the whole student body of 5000 kids, and get real awkward when they have to deal with minorities? Yet these same Trump supporters are trying to be like 'Hey black people, the Dems don't even like you! Look, they've done nothing for you! Join us instead'
Seems ironic huh?
" Yet these same Trump supporters are trying to be like 'Hey black people, the Dems don't even like you! Look, they've done nothing for you! Join us instead' "
THANK YOU!!!
The crazy thing is people fall for this crap. You already have some black people shying away from voting for Biden from this very sly tactic used by covert Republicans/conservatives
How the f*** would you quantify if somebody is SUBCONSCIOUSLY racist? Did you think this question through?
I can come with the argument and then say that all black people are subconsciously racist too but I would get crucified. I also don't believe that because its f***ing ridiculous.
That's like me saying gay people are subconsciously straight, they just dont realize or know it yet.
That argument is so f***ing stupid my man.
One racist thing the internet left does is say the primary was rigged for Biden even though the reason Biden took over was because black south Carolinians voted like 95% for Biden and every other decent candidate subsequently dropped out. Also there is no reason to vote for anyone but Joe Biden unless you are looking to prove your idiocy
Man this was Bernie's chance
I can come with the argument and then say that all black people are subconsciously racist too but I would get crucified. I also don't believe that because its f***ing ridiculous.
That's like me saying gay people are subconsciously straight, they just dont realize or know it yet.
That argument is so f***ing stupid my man.
No it isn’t stupid. During slavery times, Jim Crow times, segregation times, etc the vast majority of white people were subconsciously racist. When MLK was alive, 75% of white Americans disapproved of him. This means that 75% of ALL WHITE PEOPLE were subconsciously racist. I’m arguing that not much has changed and the vast majority of white people are still subconsciously racist, they’re just better at hiding it. You remember how hard whites went defending the murder of Trayvon, Michael Brown, etc?
I’m not siding with either I believe in ridding America of the two party system
The billionaires got their hands in both parties unfortunately.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's not a coincidence that the government seems to do everything in favor of corporations. Because they're the ones behind it all...
But yeah, I can see how there's probably leftist whites that are like 'well, you're black you have to vote Dem or you're a fool' but I think that's just cause they've grown up in one of those Trumper neighborhoods.
No it isn’t stupid. During slavery times, Jim Crow times, segregation times, etc the vast majority of white people were subconsciously racist. When MLK was alive, 75% of white Americans disapproved of him. This means that 75% of ALL WHITE PEOPLE were subconsciously racist. I’m arguing that not much has changed and the vast majority of white people are still subconsciously racist, they’re just better at hiding it. You remember how hard whites went defending the murder of Trayvon, Michael Brown, etc?
You are comparing today to a time where everybody is already dead or when it comes to Jim Crow era ending and such. Those people too are really really old or dead and make up the minority of people in this country.
I dont know where the f*** you live if you believe that people are as racist as they were during the days of slavery or Jim Crow.
You cannot give me the argument that it's just as racist or that people are subconsciously racist without them knowing.
That just shows how far from reality you really are.
My man, again, my argument was that you are spewing bullshit because what you are giving me are opinions of yourself and no f***ing stats or facts.
Fact is, there is no country in the world where people of all races live as freely as the United states. Try being black in a country like Italy where 20 to 30% are supporters of fascism and communism and absolutely hate non aryan people.
Try being black in Poland, Slovakia or other countries.
I don't want to attack you on a personal ground but if you truly believe that pretty much every white person is racist or unknowingly racist then you are the definiton of a person who is lost in life.
" Yet these same Trump supporters are trying to be like 'Hey black people, the Dems don't even like you! Look, they've done nothing for you! Join us instead' "
THANK YOU!!!
The crazy thing is people fall for this crap. You already have some black people shying away from voting for Biden from this very sly tactic used by covert Republicans/conservatives
Right smh.
Let me add that these people PROUDLY send their kids to basically all white schools.
They moved into the neighborhood SPECIFICALLY so their kids wouldn't have to go to school with so many minorites.
I know of people that would've rather had their kid miss out on a full ride to any University in the state just to go to the 'good' school where it's mostly white people.
Yes, people essentially turned down tens of thousands of dollars just so they didn't have to send their kids to the sketchy schools.
You are comparing today to a time where everybody is already dead or when it comes to Jim Crow era ending and such. Those people too are really really old or dead and make up the minority of people in this country.
I dont know where the f*** you live if you believe that people are as racist as they were during the days of slavery or Jim Crow.
You cannot give me the argument that it's just as racist or that people are subconsciously racist without them knowing.
That just shows how far from reality you really are.
My man, again, my argument was that you are spewing bullshit because what you are giving me are opinions of yourself and no f***ing stats or facts.
Fact is, there is no country in the world where people of all races live as freely as the United states. Try being black in a country like Italy where 20 to 30% are supporters of fascism and communism and absolutely hate non aryan people.
Try being black in Poland, Slovakia or other countries.
I don't want to attack you on a personal ground but if you truly believe that pretty much every white person is racist or unknowingly racist then you are the definiton of a person who is lost in life.
Seems like you completely misinterpreted what I said. Were the white people alive during Jim Crow JUST as racist as those alive during slavery? Of course not. Were they still racist? Yes, just in a different way. Were the white people alive during segregation JUST as racist as those alive during Jim Crow? No, but they were still racist. Are the white people alive today JUST as racist as the ones alive during segregation? No, but they’re still racist. Who do you think defends the confederate flags to this day? Who do you think voted in Donald Trump, the most hateful president in recent memory? Who screams “make America great again” from the mountain tops? Would you deny that these people are subconsciously racist?
Man this was Bernie's chance
... he had no chance. You need a remarkably naive understanding of us politics to think he had a chance in the primary. We would be absolutely f***ed right now with Bernie as the nominee
bruh chill with the racism wtf bro
Y’all are devils and have committed many atrocities against people of color you shouldn’t be surprised that we view you as evil
Many people on the left play race and victimization politics. Race hustlers. I hate both political parties and don't believe in a two party system because it doesn't provide us with real options or solutions. Many people on the left are playing Black people. Some of them are racist and are only concerned with keeping Black people dependent on them.
Agree but dnt say left vaguely
The left includes folks like biden and aoc who advocate for policies that legitimately will help poc and poor folks and then ghouls like obama and biden
they are worst than republicans to me. Look how they talked about black people after than SC win for Biden
Still cheesed about it
Like all of a sudden over 50 black boomers in a deep southern red state who care enough sbout the dnc to vote in a primary is now a consensus of the black vote
Some white leftists are yes.
But I think you're talking about white liberals, not leftists in this instance
they are worst than republicans to me. Look how they talked about black people after than SC win for Biden
sorry for derailing ur thread
bruh chill with the racism wtf bro
you know you and your people evil don’t worry about what im doing worry about yourself
the guy who’s people have literally committed atrocities against everyone including their own is the one to tell me to chill with the racism. id tell you to suck my d*** but that might be too dignifying. when y’all asking for equality, really think about that s***. is the person who kills, rapes, and pillages routinely really the one you want to be equal to? maybe im crazy
it’s medical professionals right now that still believe s*** that is a product of slavery pseudoscience, “are liberal whites subconsciously racist?” Nigga yes they all are
Y’all are devils and have committed many atrocities against people of color you shouldn’t be surprised that we view you as evil
what do you consider white? i'm not trying to pull a #notall whatever here, i just think this is interesting every time this comes up. like are afghanis white? armenians? is it really tied to "white" as a race and not tied to specific cultural lineages?