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  • OP
    Jul 11, 2020
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    krishna bound

    what do you consider white? i'm not trying to pull a #notall whatever here, i just think this is interesting every time this comes up. like are afghanis white? armenians? is it really tied to "white" as a race and not tied to specific cultural lineages?

    That’s a good question and it’s good you asked it.
    I mean like the traditional anglo Irish etc. whites who have lived here forever

  • Jul 11, 2020
    Ari

    That’s a good question and it’s good you asked it.
    I mean like the traditional anglo Irish etc. whites who have lived here forever

    i want to say i get this is a complicated topic so i don't want it to seem like i'm trying to invalidate your thoughts on the matter; I get it, definitely - and I'm sympathetic.
    I guess the issue becomes that you start to run into issues with you have to compare oppression, if that makes sense? Like for example you cite the Irish (and i know people often cite Italians), but Irish & Italians both received their own periods of oppression (Italians were lynched in the US too, for example). Now while this isn't comparable to black-american oppression ofc, I think there's something grim about having to compare oppressive dialogues in order to categorize a person one way or another. I think what also complicates it is when people have mixed heritage too - like is someone being 1/10th german or something.
    I don't like talking about my background online because I often think it invalidates otherwise neutral conversations, but i'm mixed from a lot of different ethnic backgrounds which have historically (and recently) received oppression. it's hard because you definitely feel a level of resentfulness esp. toward ignorance if anything else, but you have to think about it from a more abstract background. like i think it's generally better to sort things by historical context and determination than by tail-end traits.

  • Jul 11, 2020
    KELYE

    sorry for derailing ur thread

    It’s fine

  • Jul 12, 2020

    Most white liberals are racists, yeah.

  • Gojira 🦖
    Jul 12, 2020
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    krishna bound

    what do you consider white? i'm not trying to pull a #notall whatever here, i just think this is interesting every time this comes up. like are afghanis white? armenians? is it really tied to "white" as a race and not tied to specific cultural lineages?

    the middle east arent white

  • Jul 12, 2020
    Gojira

    the middle east arent white

    i know middle easterners aren't "white" but many can 100% pass as white if you do not know their place of origin. many people in my family ancestry who had that heritage 100% passed as white. if we're not going simply by "white"="european" (which even that is complicated tbh), then south italians are no more white by skin color than many middle easterners and south asians

  • Jul 13, 2020

    As opposed to who?

    The vast majority of whites hold either subconscious or overt racial biases.

    Really scust how people end up using minorities in their political batting games.

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    It's crazy how minorities living within a society with a domineering set of cultural values will have dummies making threads like "are liberal whites subconsciously racist"?

    You would have to be a coon to add a specifier like that. A large majority of the white people you will meet in America and/or just the western world will harbor some levels of racial bias.

    Also Kelye posts up to bootyshake for left leaning white socialist.

    Every Kelye post I read is an embarassment.

    Literally none of these groups are even remotely the same in how they engage in racial politics and/or situations in their entirety.

    Imagine highlighting the difference between leftist and liberal first as if out of all the groups listed, these were the only ones worth of differentiating

    You can go into an entire diatribe on how white leftists and white liberals alike have a white savior complex in regards to minority issues. Or how for many white people, being left leaning may revolve more around performative aspects as opposed to genuine desires to enact good will on the population.

    This thread is so cringe, why does KTT even need a politics section.
    The entire section is a bunch of clowns shooting the s*** over their politically unfeasible opinions.

    I can make an archetype of literally half of the people who post in this section

    1. Covert Trump supporters who try to mitigate how damaging Trump is to the current sphere of politics. Also enthusiastically watch Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones unironically. Can't respond without resorting to memetics. The only good conversations are the ones where they agree, everything is bad so Trump can't be that bad
    2. Socialists/Borderline Commies like Synopsis who are completely irrelevant in regards to politics. Has political opinions that have 0 weight or authority behind them. Will believe in literal falsehoods in order to win an internet argument. Cannot parse reliable sources from sources with a heavy slant that affects their reporting. Will pretend they don't support tankie rhetoric online
    3. Political neophytes who have no idea what the f*** they're saying, ex: Olivear
    4. People who at least understand to a degree the topics they're talking about.
    5. Conspiracy theorist who actually believe that fluoride in the water is turning them into brainwashed drones devoid of individual reasoning skills.

    KTT shouldn't have a politics section

  • Jul 14, 2020
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    every white liberal I know cares so much about stopping racism that they limit the voice of all black and brown people around them until it is either their way or the high way. It's this weird savior complex that they all have. Honestly, white liberals annoy me more than racist people. At least with a racist I know what to expect.

  • Jul 14, 2020
    Krillin

    every white liberal I know cares so much about stopping racism that they limit the voice of all black and brown people around them until it is either their way or the high way. It's this weird savior complex that they all have. Honestly, white liberals annoy me more than racist people. At least with a racist I know what to expect.

    This is easily the best explanation.

  • Jul 14, 2020
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    KuntaKinte

    It's crazy how minorities living within a society with a domineering set of cultural values will have dummies making threads like "are liberal whites subconsciously racist"?

    You would have to be a coon to add a specifier like that. A large majority of the white people you will meet in America and/or just the western world will harbor some levels of racial bias.

    Also Kelye posts up to bootyshake for left leaning white socialist.

    Every Kelye post I read is an embarassment.

    Literally none of these groups are even remotely the same in how they engage in racial politics and/or situations in their entirety.

    Imagine highlighting the difference between leftist and liberal first as if out of all the groups listed, these were the only ones worth of differentiating

    You can go into an entire diatribe on how white leftists and white liberals alike have a white savior complex in regards to minority issues. Or how for many white people, being left leaning may revolve more around performative aspects as opposed to genuine desires to enact good will on the population.

    This thread is so cringe, why does KTT even need a politics section.
    The entire section is a bunch of clowns shooting the s*** over their politically unfeasible opinions.

    I can make an archetype of literally half of the people who post in this section

    1. Covert Trump supporters who try to mitigate how damaging Trump is to the current sphere of politics. Also enthusiastically watch Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones unironically. Can't respond without resorting to memetics. The only good conversations are the ones where they agree, everything is bad so Trump can't be that bad
    2. Socialists/Borderline Commies like Synopsis who are completely irrelevant in regards to politics. Has political opinions that have 0 weight or authority behind them. Will believe in literal falsehoods in order to win an internet argument. Cannot parse reliable sources from sources with a heavy slant that affects their reporting. Will pretend they don't support tankie rhetoric online
    3. Political neophytes who have no idea what the f*** they're saying, ex: Olivear
    4. People who at least understand to a degree the topics they're talking about.
    5. Conspiracy theorist who actually believe that fluoride in the water is turning them into brainwashed drones devoid of individual reasoning skills.

    KTT shouldn't have a politics section

    damb

  • Jul 14, 2020
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    clueless

    damb

    Just upset he called me a borderline commie

  • Jul 14, 2020
    Synopsis

    Just upset he called me a borderline commie

  • Jul 14, 2020
    KuntaKinte

    It's crazy how minorities living within a society with a domineering set of cultural values will have dummies making threads like "are liberal whites subconsciously racist"?

    You would have to be a coon to add a specifier like that. A large majority of the white people you will meet in America and/or just the western world will harbor some levels of racial bias.

    Also Kelye posts up to bootyshake for left leaning white socialist.

    Every Kelye post I read is an embarassment.

    Literally none of these groups are even remotely the same in how they engage in racial politics and/or situations in their entirety.

    Imagine highlighting the difference between leftist and liberal first as if out of all the groups listed, these were the only ones worth of differentiating

    You can go into an entire diatribe on how white leftists and white liberals alike have a white savior complex in regards to minority issues. Or how for many white people, being left leaning may revolve more around performative aspects as opposed to genuine desires to enact good will on the population.

    This thread is so cringe, why does KTT even need a politics section.
    The entire section is a bunch of clowns shooting the s*** over their politically unfeasible opinions.

    I can make an archetype of literally half of the people who post in this section

    1. Covert Trump supporters who try to mitigate how damaging Trump is to the current sphere of politics. Also enthusiastically watch Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones unironically. Can't respond without resorting to memetics. The only good conversations are the ones where they agree, everything is bad so Trump can't be that bad
    2. Socialists/Borderline Commies like Synopsis who are completely irrelevant in regards to politics. Has political opinions that have 0 weight or authority behind them. Will believe in literal falsehoods in order to win an internet argument. Cannot parse reliable sources from sources with a heavy slant that affects their reporting. Will pretend they don't support tankie rhetoric online
    3. Political neophytes who have no idea what the f*** they're saying, ex: Olivear
    4. People who at least understand to a degree the topics they're talking about.
    5. Conspiracy theorist who actually believe that fluoride in the water is turning them into brainwashed drones devoid of individual reasoning skills.

    KTT shouldn't have a politics section

    #ye2020

  • OP
    Jul 14, 2020
    KuntaKinte

    It's crazy how minorities living within a society with a domineering set of cultural values will have dummies making threads like "are liberal whites subconsciously racist"?

    You would have to be a coon to add a specifier like that. A large majority of the white people you will meet in America and/or just the western world will harbor some levels of racial bias.

    Also Kelye posts up to bootyshake for left leaning white socialist.

    Every Kelye post I read is an embarassment.

    Literally none of these groups are even remotely the same in how they engage in racial politics and/or situations in their entirety.

    Imagine highlighting the difference between leftist and liberal first as if out of all the groups listed, these were the only ones worth of differentiating

    You can go into an entire diatribe on how white leftists and white liberals alike have a white savior complex in regards to minority issues. Or how for many white people, being left leaning may revolve more around performative aspects as opposed to genuine desires to enact good will on the population.

    This thread is so cringe, why does KTT even need a politics section.
    The entire section is a bunch of clowns shooting the s*** over their politically unfeasible opinions.

    I can make an archetype of literally half of the people who post in this section

    1. Covert Trump supporters who try to mitigate how damaging Trump is to the current sphere of politics. Also enthusiastically watch Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones unironically. Can't respond without resorting to memetics. The only good conversations are the ones where they agree, everything is bad so Trump can't be that bad
    2. Socialists/Borderline Commies like Synopsis who are completely irrelevant in regards to politics. Has political opinions that have 0 weight or authority behind them. Will believe in literal falsehoods in order to win an internet argument. Cannot parse reliable sources from sources with a heavy slant that affects their reporting. Will pretend they don't support tankie rhetoric online
    3. Political neophytes who have no idea what the f*** they're saying, ex: Olivear
    4. People who at least understand to a degree the topics they're talking about.
    5. Conspiracy theorist who actually believe that fluoride in the water is turning them into brainwashed drones devoid of individual reasoning skills.

    KTT shouldn't have a politics section

    I literally cannot read all of that

  • Jul 15, 2020
    KuntaKinte

    It's crazy how minorities living within a society with a domineering set of cultural values will have dummies making threads like "are liberal whites subconsciously racist"?

    You would have to be a coon to add a specifier like that. A large majority of the white people you will meet in America and/or just the western world will harbor some levels of racial bias.

    Also Kelye posts up to bootyshake for left leaning white socialist.

    Every Kelye post I read is an embarassment.

    Literally none of these groups are even remotely the same in how they engage in racial politics and/or situations in their entirety.

    Imagine highlighting the difference between leftist and liberal first as if out of all the groups listed, these were the only ones worth of differentiating

    You can go into an entire diatribe on how white leftists and white liberals alike have a white savior complex in regards to minority issues. Or how for many white people, being left leaning may revolve more around performative aspects as opposed to genuine desires to enact good will on the population.

    This thread is so cringe, why does KTT even need a politics section.
    The entire section is a bunch of clowns shooting the s*** over their politically unfeasible opinions.

    I can make an archetype of literally half of the people who post in this section

    1. Covert Trump supporters who try to mitigate how damaging Trump is to the current sphere of politics. Also enthusiastically watch Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones unironically. Can't respond without resorting to memetics. The only good conversations are the ones where they agree, everything is bad so Trump can't be that bad
    2. Socialists/Borderline Commies like Synopsis who are completely irrelevant in regards to politics. Has political opinions that have 0 weight or authority behind them. Will believe in literal falsehoods in order to win an internet argument. Cannot parse reliable sources from sources with a heavy slant that affects their reporting. Will pretend they don't support tankie rhetoric online
    3. Political neophytes who have no idea what the f*** they're saying, ex: Olivear
    4. People who at least understand to a degree the topics they're talking about.
    5. Conspiracy theorist who actually believe that fluoride in the water is turning them into brainwashed drones devoid of individual reasoning skills.

    KTT shouldn't have a politics section

    yo its not that serious

  • Jul 17, 2020

    there was actually a study done which purported to show that white liberals dumb themselves down when talking to black people
    insights.som.yale.edu/insights/white-liberals-present-themselves-as-less-competent-in-interactions-with-african-americans

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