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  • Sep 14, 2023
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    Chubby Gambino

    Maybe not sales, but people are more likely to listen to an album than a mixtape. Like I've spoken to people who haven't listened to The Warm Up, Friday Night Lights, Overly Dedicated. Probably a lot of people out there who never heard Faces until it dropped on streaming recently. So if an artist can deal with the pressure of the world's eyes on them and still drop a project that's regarded as a classic, it's more highly regarded than doing it on a mixtape

    And J Cole is a good example of how it affects the output of the artist. FNL didn't need to have a Work Out. And between FNL and CW:TSS, one of them is universally considered better

    That’s wild

    The water gets muddy now a days when tapes like Barter 6 go straight to streaming cause I’d say Thug a legend more for his mixtape career more than his albums

  • Sep 14, 2023
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    People wouldn’t even understand Fabolous appeal if they only heard his albums smh

  • Mac Wit Da Cheese

    That’s wild

    The water gets muddy now a days when tapes like Barter 6 go straight to streaming cause I’d say Thug a legend more for his mixtape career more than his albums

    The lines are blurred these days to the point where they're basically non-existent. Most of my examples are from the early stages in an artist's career, so I'm not sure how true it holds for mixtapes an artist drops when they're already established like More Life

  • Sep 14, 2023
    Mac Wit Da Cheese

    People wouldn’t even understand Fabolous appeal if they only heard his albums smh

    An era of label micromanagement where studio albums were watered down to hell

  • Sep 14, 2023
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    Notmyfirst

    those last 2 are albums

  • Sep 14, 2023

    Kanye Yugoslavia - American Wet P****

  • Sep 14, 2023
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    Ochocinco Doggo

    thriller is a mixtape because MJ wore a hat too

  • Sep 14, 2023
    Notmyfirst

    those last 2 are albums

    Iyrtitl isn't an album because Drake and the label didn't promote it like one. You can argue about whether it's a mixtape, project, etc but coming in between the build ups to TC, NWTS and Views, there's a clear difference

  • Oblivion X

    A big what if in hip-hop if it dropped 2012

    Still sounds fresh to this day. Timeless!

  • Notmyfirst

    thriller is a mixtape because MJ wore a hat too

    cope

  • Sep 14, 2023
    murakamichain

    Absolutely

    That’s another classic album that would be an undisputed classic if it had the major label rollout

    You almost wanna give that to Kush and OJ and More About Nothing too

    Need that on Vinyl

    @Kanye stop being a b**** and clear the samples

  • Sep 14, 2023
    Classique

    one of the rare artists where every project could be argued is their best

    EXCEPT for their last one is my honest opinion. Everyone was out of this world except the last one. I think they were veering to pop heavily in it, idk, was missing something

  • Sep 14, 2023

    Kendrick untitled unmastered

  • Teflon Don and God Forgives God Forgives is a masterpiece

  • p r o v i d e r

    ravyn and steve put their foot in this.

    damn she looks good

  • THIB 🦌
    Sep 14, 2023

    Lost Tapes

  • Sep 14, 2023
    Mac Wit Da Cheese

    But from a quality standpoint shouldn’t classic be classic no matter what? Or do sales factor in classic status?

    Very few tapes ever get remembered like albums in the general public and it's going to get worse the further we get into decades of streaming