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  • spongebob 🪼
    Feb 3
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    Vert1600

    Them Russians terrorized eastern europe for hundreds of years but they the good guys cus of WW2(even tho Hitler and Stalin split Europe at the start ) , same imperialistic s*** just like USA

    Whatever happened in the region, somehow probably got in the way of you becoming fully literate so im sorry about that for what its worth

  • Feb 3
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    Shadow374

    The American people are comprised of 80% racist pro imperialist stooges who dont care about capitalist oppression. We gotta stop this myth that the west is some leader of progressivism. Most Americans wouldnt sacrifice a thing for the benefit of the working class

    noone believes that

  • spongebob 🪼
    Feb 3
    NobodyWins

    Why are you banned

    Too much aura it disturbs the equilibrium of society

  • spongebob 🪼
    Feb 3
    Vert1600

    Them Russians terrorized eastern europe for hundreds of years but they the good guys cus of WW2(even tho Hitler and Stalin split Europe at the start ) , same imperialistic s*** just like USA

    Hundreds of years? yea Lol. Theres a reason they overthrew the tsar bud

  • WRU

    noone believes that

    Liberals do believe they are on the cutting edge when it comes to progressive ideology just to support the same old racist imperialism

  • Gangy 🇨🇳
    Feb 4
    spongebob

    Whatever happened in the region, somehow probably got in the way of you becoming fully literate so im sorry about that for what its worth

    Lmao

  • Keep this going @op

  • Mar 29
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    Vert1600

    Them Russians terrorized eastern europe for hundreds of years but they the good guys cus of WW2(even tho Hitler and Stalin split Europe at the start ) , same imperialistic s*** just like USA

    terrorized Europe for hundreds of years

    it's crazy how you can say something that was a Nazi propaganda line in Germany for decades but the dipshit ktt mods don't know any better

  • Mar 29
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    snowboyrari

    terrorized Europe for hundreds of years

    it's crazy how you can say something that was a Nazi propaganda line in Germany for decades but the dipshit ktt mods don't know any better

    shut up dork

  • Vert1600

    shut up dork

    end it all, nazi

  • doesnt your pasty white d***ensian street urchin probably got a last name like Popescu lookin ass have some AAVE to butcher in another thread

    "no cap I'm gonna finna!! 😂😂"

  • Mar 29
    Ulyanov_

    I honestly think most middle Americans would need to see their living conditions seriously deteriorate to win them over for socialism, especially white middle American men. You can and overall should try to win them over, but don't expect much.

    I think most middle Americans would see a small but noticeable drop in their material standard of living upon a socialist revolution. The American Dream is fundamentally diametrically opposed to socialist construction. You can't have it and have either poverty elimination or grinding the global south into dust. Fortunately, the middle class is dissolving due to capitalism's own dysfunctions, so maybe a few folks can be won over as things worsen.

    A socialist doesn't want to see working people suffer per se, but we anticipate that they will, and need to be able to spring into action to win folks over to the cause once they "snap out of it". I don't say that in a condescending way, I say this as someone who became jaded to capitalism and the American way of life, and had socialists swoop in to nurture those raw feelings into class consciousness.

    i don't really think most middle americans would see their material standard drop that much tbh. it already f***ing sucks s*** as it is, if anything it would improve. you'd still have your playstations but you could actually get healthcare. like s*** is mad preferable as it is

  • Mar 30
    EuroNymous

    what do you think of china?

    If I read this back when you wrote it, I would be more partial to China and their supposed realpolitik. However, their "impotence", to put it very lightly, regarding assisting Cuba right now, has soured me to their capitalist reforms and Dengism. China is pretty much just a European social democracy with less civil liberties but also without the militarism. It's a better model for organizing a country/economy than the US and the vast majority of the west in general, but it's not really a socialist country anymore, and probably hasn't been since like 1982. I don't know that they're enemies to socialism, but they're not allies.

  • Mar 30
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    009

    How do you participate in action?

    Get started by going to local protests that have any kind of socialist representation there, even if it's the DSA. This is where you can begin to meet irl socialists and form a network of aspiring revolutionaries.

  • Mar 30
    Elric

    I wanna get on board but why did Stalin feel the need to ethnically cleans so many peoples from their native lands

    Stalin is just one guy though, and a lot of what we "know" about him is disinformation or egregiously embellished. But even under Stalin the Soviet Union saw unprecedented economic/industrial growth despite being up against arguably the worst opposition of any country in history. Their own "allies" in WWII were out to get them on top of the maniacal Axis powers.

    Capitalism furthermore has a much more extensive, and more brutal, track record of ethnic discrimination, chief among them being the Holocaust, which the USSR under Stalin played a decisive role in ending. History is ugly unfortunately, but the revolution that feeds the children gets my support.

  • Mar 30
    Plight2

    Should Ukraine exist

    Yeah, but they shouldn't be part of NATO, because NATO shouldn't exist.

  • Mar 30
    Shadow374

    Why do most western leftists lie about china being socialist? Is it cause they dont actually know what socialism is per Marx’s definition?

    They're not lying as much as they're misunderstanding and/or having lofty faith in China's alleged path towards socialist development. But I think most support for China and their "socialism" is out of desperation and fear.

  • Mar 30
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    Shadow374

    What is a mediocre life though? Imperialism requires half of the globe to live in abysmal conditions. Is it then moral for westerners to enjoy the fruits of exploitation? Especially when trying to dictate morals to the third world

    You're confusing the level of material development built from capitalist society, with the mode of production itself.

    There's nothing wrong with enjoying the material standard of living afforded to the American "middle class", but the issue is how we arrived to that standard of living. But socialism can, eventually, produce close to the material standard of living for working people in the US as capitalism presently does, but without the instability and periodic crises.

    What I was trying to point out is that socialism hasn't, yet, produce a truly affluent society. But this is because the least-equipped countries in the world have historically taken the mantle to build socialism, and are up against unyielding opposition from the strongest, most developed countries in human history. If we stopped attacking these countries ceaselessly, they could provide a legitimately affluent way of life for working people. Not luxurious, but comfortable and enjoyable, like an upper middle class urban lifestyle. We don't need to view pursuing socialism as settling for an ascetic lifestyle. The less-than-ideal living conditions of some socialist countries (and they are very much only slightly less-than-ideal, at worst, when they're not at war) is a byproduct of trying to survive in a globalized capitalist system, not a feature of socialist construction itself.

  • Mar 30
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    Vert1600

    Them Russians terrorized eastern europe for hundreds of years but they the good guys cus of WW2(even tho Hitler and Stalin split Europe at the start ) , same imperialistic s*** just like USA

    This is what happens when you gleam history from random bullshit you come across online

  • Mar 30
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    Ulyanov_

    This is what happens when you gleam history from random bullshit you come across online

    Its true
    Can say this what happens when you are an american that lived his whole life and his familly in USA and keep gleaming history from a rabbit hole

  • Vert1600

    Its true
    Can say this what happens when you are an american that lived his whole life and his familly in USA and keep gleaming history from a rabbit hole

    This is word salad friend

  • Mar 30
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    Op what are your socials

  • Mar 30
    Ulyanov_

    Get started by going to local protests that have any kind of socialist representation there, even if it's the DSA. This is where you can begin to meet irl socialists and form a network of aspiring revolutionaries.

    I'm headed to do out reach right now with psl. Good thread comrade.

  • CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

    Op what are your socials

    I don't have social media actually

  • Mar 30
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    Do you still want to live in cuba tho

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