In for the dub to not be out until December 2024

Mappa with eren expressions in the entirety of the final season

Some of the rawest manga panels just dont hit the same in the anime unfortunately, eren's expressions tell so much of his character and reveal what he really thinks behind that mask, that it makes the final revelation that hes still a crybaby less surprising,

This page has been living rent free in my head since i first read the chapter, and in the anime its just a stock eren face, like the look in his eyes here shows so much without saying a word

This would be it (if Isayama wants to take it there)

I mean Geekmin & Gothkasa already appear in season 4 so it’s as confirmed as it gets.

Bro what

Eren saying he pushed his friends away and got carried away ≠ it was all an act.

Idk why people can’t accept that he was that person in the moments leading up to the finale but he still had his internal feelings for his friends.

A paragraph of headcanon to explain inconsistent writing born out of the desire to make Eren a tragic hero rather than the man with a hardened resolve in the past 30 episodes. This comes directly from the author btw

He literally says in his head multiple times that he's free and wants to complete the rumbling to save his people. Now, we found out that Eren always planned to only kill 80% of the world and save his friends (even though he'd already killed a couple of his friends at that point). And also was apparently a slave to his future self's decisions (however the f*** that makes sense). The explanation for this inconsistency from fans is that he was putting on an act the whole time. To me, it's clear that the author wanted Eren to go down as a villain with extremely flawed motivations but couldn't commit. Instead all the characters remember him as a great guy that wanted to save his friends (even though he killed a couple of em already and 80% of the world)

Is it safe to say that the anime onlys are having a way better reaction to the ending than the manga readers? I know apparently they added a bit more but I have yet to see an anime only person not like the ending

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I directly linked you a video of him literally talking

And I directly linked you a video of him literally explaining that he had always planned for it to end this way.

He didn’t “plan” to kill 80% of the world, he just knew that’s all he accomplished since he knew his friends stopped him before it was over.

Edit: it was predetermined because of Eren’s nature, the way the negotiations were going, the fact they could’ve all been bombed at any second. Eren didn’t see every single moment but had a guide of what was going to happen and it showed him several times attempt to do the opposite in order to maybe change what happens but it doesn’t work out like that, due to human nature and his own feelings toward what was going on, he couldn’t ignore it just because he saw the outcome.

We even see the idea of a world where he straight up ignores everything and that was a worse outcome if anything.

and they don’t remember him as a great guy they remember him as Eren. The only people that saw him as a “good guy” were the ones that always knew him and the island of paradis and isn’t a bad thing to have him still have a good effect on people.

On the other end he’s literally the devil to the rest of the world. It’s grey.

You want to argue about what's literally coming out of the author's mouth

You want to argue about what’s literally written by the author

No, he explicitly stated that this was his plan so his friends could be the heroes that killed Eren Yeager. It was setup that way

definitely. the amount of special anime only ending cope from manga readers was reaching schizophrenic levels

It feels like selective reading and fan theories gave em puddy for brains.

There’s not liking the ending but outright ignoring all of the things that make it make sense to say it’s bad is what I see the most. Then the things they point out only make them seem more delulu because they wanted the story to go a different way instead of actually reading and comprehending what led up to it turning out the way it did.

Kinda wish they used Under The Tree at some point

Yes, he stated that his plan was to commence the rumbling and have his friends become the heroes, but the actual number of 80% was locked in because that’s when they finish the fight but he himself didn’t plan to just stop at 80% for s***s and giggles. That’s all they managed to save.

He just knew that’s when it ended because it was predetermined but he was going to keep moving forward until that moment (when he dies/Ymir moves on/titan curse is gone) because it would bring that freedom to his people even if brief.

(though judging by the song at the end that brief freedom could be beyond any amount of time we imagined)

Unfortunately he himself never got to truly experience the freedom he was a slave to, that he desired so much.

Feel like all the anime onlies I’ve seen missed that Ymir was actually the one to free the pigs and the villagers were not cappin lol

I think the best short review I've heard about the ending is "it doesn't insult your intelligence, but it may insult your feelings" and honestly I both love that and agree with it

Solid ending explanation video

The anime ending explicitly stated that Eren was never free, that he was always the slave that he hated (something I had picked up on that others didn't at the time and felt might've been a reach)

Another thing the anime ending fleshed out better was the fact that Eren is just an idiot who got power. Sure, he mentioned that he looked for every possible way to prevent this, but it got to the point where he said "fuck it, I'm down" and even wanted to extend the carnage further than what he was expecting. That was something I was admittedly initially not too big on, but when you just flat out call it like it is, a dumbass nigga who got too big headed it explains that he was never this "stoic, hard character". He was putting on a front because he's impulsive, emotional, and doesn't really think things through.

The Mikasa aspect was clear as day, folks who didn't see it back then when the manga chapters dropped idk what to tell you.

And then finally those extra pages after the chapter where we see the war starting up again, I initially was confused but maybe because I was hoping for a definitive ending and that's just not reality. Eren at least made it a world where his friends grew up, had families, and died in a time of peace...but peace isn't eternal. War coming back was inevitable, whether it be titans, planes, bombs, you name it. That's not a commentary on the story, that's a commentary on the world lol