I think the best short review I've heard about the ending is "it doesn't insult your intelligence, but it may insult your feelings" and honestly I both love that and agree with it
Check out the one I just linked, it’s a little long but possibly the most in depth a***ysis of Ymir, Eren, Mikasa and everyone’s roles in the conclusion and it gets deep
The anime ending explicitly stated that Eren was never free, that he was always the slave that he hated (something I had picked up on that others didn't at the time and felt might've been a reach)
Another thing the anime ending fleshed out better was the fact that Eren is just an idiot who got power. Sure, he mentioned that he looked for every possible way to prevent this, but it got to the point where he said "fuck it, I'm down" and even wanted to extend the carnage further than what he was expecting. That was something I was admittedly initially not too big on, but when you just flat out call it like it is, a dumbass nigga who got too big headed it explains that he was never this "stoic, hard character". He was putting on a front because he's impulsive, emotional, and doesn't really think things through.
The Mikasa aspect was clear as day, folks who didn't see it back then when the manga chapters dropped idk what to tell you.
And then finally those extra pages after the chapter where we see the war starting up again, I initially was confused but maybe because I was hoping for a definitive ending and that's just not reality. Eren at least made it a world where his friends grew up, had families, and died in a time of peace...but peace isn't eternal. War coming back was inevitable, whether it be titans, planes, bombs, you name it. That's not a commentary on the story, that's a commentary on the world lol
“No matter the age this titan has always moved ahead seeking freedom. It fought for freedom. It’s name..”
Eren thinking of himself as an idiot that got the hold of power is funnily the best explanation for his “error” considering he only got that far due to being able to go to the past with the Founder & Influence it with the Attack but had to pretty much wing it in real time based on glimpses of future memories he received during the commencement ceremony.
It’s so crazy that all of that was really unavoidable and he knew it for so long lol ultimately the Attack Titan achieved that freedom that it sought after. That same part of Ymir that sought after her own freedom but was so traumatized she didn’t know how.
Paths gotta be one of the most op builds in the game.
And to think none of this s*** woulda went down if Grisha woulda stayed in the damn house
Solid ending explanation video
!https://youtu.be/HQ3uHh9OGAw?si=T7ICR2Mo2ZoRh0NZLove the breakdown of Ymir (especially Armin's role in her understanding of the resistance, hadn't even thought of that) as well as the dialogue around the boy walking up to the tree at the end. Very detailed and insightful
Love the breakdown of Ymir (especially Armin's role in her understanding of the resistance, hadn't even thought of that) as well as the dialogue around the boy walking up to the tree at the end. Very detailed and insightful
I hope it spreads out to help people understand the ending, a lot of it I got from the manga but at the same time there’s more nuance I hadn’t thought about that he brought up that makes everything feel even more compelling
I feel empty
I want to see you again Eren:(
The gang
God its all done
Volume 35 2024 one last ride
That's what I f***ing said when this was rolling, and she was still wearing that stanky ass scarf
Eren does grow, but he cant mature because of his deeply rooted insecurities and the godlike powers hes given. And no matter how much a person grows, their nature stays the same. Eren is and will always remain a selfish, violent and emotional man, because thats his nature, just like how Armin despite showing growth at the end of the story will always remain the naive, empathic and hopeful boy.
Also Hobo eren's supposed personal growth is so overstated, his plan was dumb as hell and wouldnt have worked had he not known the future. He did the same as always, charge ahead of the others without caring for the consequences, letting Armin and mikasa clean up his mess. The plan to reunite with zeke and execute the rumbling was born out of selfishness and without enough thought put into it, hell it started out as him wanting to kill everyone on the other side of the sea without knowing if there were innocents like his mom or not, without caring about his best friend's opinions and disregarding historia's wishes. Again, he didnt mature, he just looked cool and had the benefit of knowing parts of the future so everything he planned ended up working. Not to undermine what happened in liberio, i love that part to death and might be my favorite arc of the story still.
Thank you. People forgetting that the entire crew only found out about his plan through some paper trails while he was f***ing around as a cripple for months in Marley
Eren may not stopped an endless cycle of violence but at least he leveled the playing field
Eren may not stopped an endless cycle of violence but at least he leveled the playing field
Solid
I still think code geass has a better executed martyr ending but to see the culmination of AOT animated was great no matter how dragged out it felt
I’ll take it a step further. Albeit this is probably not the case.
Mikasa isn’t just inspiration for Ymir… Mikasa IS Ymir reincarnated without “life”. The headaches she gets from “opposing her host” is actually Ymir within her. She says things in S1 that we are led to believe Mikasa is somehow the key to everything (rewatch it, it’s not fate that’s keeping her alive). Truth is, she is and Eren even says it in the finale
Think about this as well: In the end, no matter the character, everyone got their “wish”: Gabi, Falco, Pieck, Reiner, Annie returned home to their family. Connie had his mom revived. Armin got to cross the sea. Jean got to make a family with Mikasa (shown in Night Before End, that wasn’t a dream; I’m sure Eren showed him that) Eren got to protect his friends. But what was Mikasa’s wish? For Eren to live. Which unfortunately was what she had to let go to end it all
I want you all to rewatch or watch the very last OVA. Lost Girls: Lost in a Cruel World
Just had another realization
End of Rumbling theme
And… S1 (or maybe this is the OVA)
Confirms my theory. Mikasa has the ability to travel through time/make alternate universes… just like Eren. She probably got this due to powers she got from Ymir. She can’t stop Eren from dying because he inherits the Attack Titan. From that moment his destiny was set, he couldn’t escape death; and Mikasa could not save him.
Eren probably realizes that Mikasa has this time loop ability. But, letting her or anyone else know this would mess with the outcome he desires. He wants to not only save his friends, but probably stop Mikasa from being a slave to time loop ability (hence the cage in “Child of Evil” ED). Eren is a slave to his ability to travel across time, and probably feels like Mikasa is too. The only way both of them can be “free” is if he dies.
Also, Mikasa is an Ackermann. It would make sense if she’s talked to Eren and never said anything about it because of her time travel/alt. timeline ability. She never forgot (her memories can’t be erased) probably just attributed it to another timeline.
Could be wrong, but it’s all a possibility.
Just had another realization
End of Rumbling theme
And… S1 (or maybe this is the OVA)
Confirms my theory. Mikasa has the ability to travel through time/make alternate universes… just like Eren. She probably got this due to powers she got from Ymir. She can’t stop Eren from dying because he inherits the Attack Titan. From that moment his destiny was set, he couldn’t escape death; and Mikasa could not save him.
Eren probably realizes that Mikasa has this time loop ability. But, letting her or anyone else know this would mess with the outcome he desires. He wants to not only save his friends, but probably stop Mikasa from being a slave to time loop ability (hence the cage in “Child of Evil” ED). Eren is a slave to his ability to travel across time, and probably feels like Mikasa is too. The only way both of them can be “free” is if he dies.
Also, Mikasa is an Ackermann. It would make sense if she’s talked to Eren and never said anything about it because of her time travel/alt. timeline ability. She never forgot (her memories can’t be erased) probably just attributed it to another timeline.
Could be wrong, but it’s all a possibility.
Lost girls OVA.
The “alternate timeline ability” was only an OVA thing fr it was never spoken about in manga or any interviews.
The hizuru plotline not going anywhere is kinda annoying me becuase mikasa desperately needed something else to her character besides being obsessed with eren
Can anyone explain this? Why did Zeke freeze after the ball was missed by Eren? Was that the time he went to paths?
Lost girls OVA.
The “alternate timeline ability” was only an OVA thing fr it was never spoken about in manga or any interviews.
Ah, I see. Gonna read the manga soon to see differences. I always thought the “see you later, Eren” kinda inferred the time loop ability she has as well.
Yes, he stated that his plan was to commence the rumbling and have his friends become the heroes, but the actual number of 80% was locked in because that’s when they finish the fight but he himself didn’t plan to just stop at 80% for s***s and giggles. That’s all they managed to save.
He just knew that’s when it ended because it was predetermined but he was going to keep moving forward until that moment (when he dies/Ymir moves on/titan curse is gone) because it would bring that freedom to his people even if brief.
(though judging by the song at the end that brief freedom could be beyond any amount of time we imagined)
Unfortunately he himself never got to truly experience the freedom he was a slave to, that he desired so much.
Honestly I do not have the energy to argue with your ass again. You can have it bro. Eren was clearly just a slave to his future version's decisions. Totally makes sense and absolves Eren making him a true Tragic hero! What a poor soul! Sounds like a retcon to me
Can anyone explain this? Why did Zeke freeze after the ball was missed by Eren? Was that the time he went to paths?
Nah he was just shocked Eren didn’t catch the ball.
The scene was mainly there to signify Eren not truly being aligned with Zeke.
Honestly I do not have the energy to argue with your ass again. You can have it bro. Eren was clearly just a slave to his future version's decisions. Totally makes sense and absolves Eren making him a true Tragic hero! What a poor soul! Sounds like a retcon to me
Lol idk who said anything about absolving Eren
A paragraph of headcanon to explain inconsistent writing born out of the desire to make Eren a tragic hero rather than the man with a hardened resolve in the past 30 episodes. This comes directly from the author btw
https://twitter.com/Brownstragic/status/1594055922044882945How is it headcanon lol it's literally what happens in the story, also while hes been "the man with a hardened resolve" for 30 episodes, he's been the same old eren for more than 60 so idk what kinda argument is that. Plus idk what you're trying to say linking that interview?
How is it headcanon lol it's literally what happens in the story, also while hes been "the man with a hardened resolve" for 30 episodes, he's been the same old eren for more than 60 so idk what kinda argument is that. Plus idk what you're trying to say linking that interview?
Yes, because characters grow through their experiences. Or at least they're supposed to. I don't expect Eren to all of a sudden start acting like his season 1 15 year old self again
Thank you. People forgetting that the entire crew only found out about his plan through some paper trails while he was f***ing around as a cripple for months in Marley
Hell levi slapped his ass and eren didnt even fight back he knew he f***ed up, he even broke down hearing about sasha's death, which he caused btw. Eren only knows how to charge forward, hes always done It and its the reason he always get caught. There's the dialogue between hannes, armin and mikasa in S2 (where this happens too btw, eren gets emotional, transforms into titan and is defeated by reiner and bertholdt) and they reminisce of all the times eren left went ahead and left his friends behind, its in character, no matter how stoic he looks.