americana

2y

i'll give you that

LEMONADE's writing was ridiculously good, and i appreciated her work in RENAISSANCE

my thing is that if someone wants to genuinely approach country, they have to be genuine about the genre, its background, and its realities

Country before 9/11 was labor-based, it was heavily political, it was narratively divisive, it was lyrical. She isn't delivering here. She's delivering the pop-version blind patriotism of post-9/11 white country. House and Dance were different in this regard so obviously i'd have no issues with pop writing on something like RENAISSANCE.

But when your objective with this trilogy is to highlight the very true black/liberationist background of these works, and you ignore the fact that country music was a vein in which black liberation and pro-black anti-capitalism found itself in your content, I'll obviously be very critical about your artistic integrity

ragedsycokiller

2y

I'm betting this album will be a two-pack of ass

rvi

2y

90s country, the commercial peak of the genre, was definitely not something we can describe as labor-based or heavily political (or broadly "lyrical" either for that matter)

idk if im reading this right but im not really sure what youre referring to with country music as a vein for black liberation and anti-capitalism before 9/11 era unless you're going so far back as to refer to people like Woody Guthrie or before the name "country" itself even existed

rvi

2y

90s country, the commercial peak of the genre, was definitely not something we can describe as labor-based or heavily political (or broadly "lyrical" either for that matter)

idk if im reading this right but im not really sure what youre referring to with country music as a vein for black liberation and anti-capitalism before 9/11 era unless you're going so far back as to refer to people like Woody Guthrie or before the name "country" itself even existed

CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

2y

@atthepyramids you're under fire I'm afraid

snowboyrari

2y

I never deleted s***, actually. I do like that I live in your head rent-free though, you obviously just hate an outspoken arab woman.

Valentine

2y

We were so close to this not being a thread

CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

2y

Is Shania Twain the best selling country musician

rvi

2y

even going back further to 70s country, people sometimes act like it was dominated by the working class outlaw musicians or something when that was just a reaction coexisting with the perpetually dominant and super capitalist nashville establishment

atthepyramids

2y

all this discourse. 300k sold first week

ragedsycokiller

2y

She already did. But she burned bridges way too fast and blackballed herself

Not Like Josuke

2y

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1. You did, the receipts are still there

2. I don’t give a f*** about you being an Arab woman. Any time I see you calling for deaths of niggas on this forum and calling for deaths of people irl, and never getting held accountable for it, best believe I’m on yo ass. Meanwhile you got users who won’t even get told why they got banned.

rvi

2y

nah it's Garth Brooks. bro sold more albums in the US than Elvis or Michael Jackson and went Diamond 9 times

Shania is still up there but her catalog is smaller. i think her biggest album is the highest selling country album ever

americana

2y

i'll give you that

LEMONADE's writing was ridiculously good, and i appreciated her work in RENAISSANCE

my thing is that if someone wants to genuinely approach country, they have to be genuine about the genre, its background, and its realities

Country before 9/11 was labor-based, it was heavily political, it was narratively divisive, it was lyrical. She isn't delivering here. She's delivering the pop-version blind patriotism of post-9/11 white country. House and Dance were different in this regard so obviously i'd have no issues with pop writing on something like RENAISSANCE.

But when your objective with this trilogy is to highlight the very true black/liberationist background of these works, and you ignore the fact that country music was a vein in which black liberation and pro-black anti-capitalism found itself in your content, I'll obviously be very critical about your artistic integrity

snowboyrari

2y

cry about it. and no, never deleted a thing.

deleteduser579

2y

were any of her other albums praised solely because she made it?

or maybe the music was good?

Not Like Josuke

2y

Guy who went “ah gee I wish Aaron bushnell killed a bunch of people instead of self immolation” and deleted his post is really itt criticizing someone else for deleting their post and not standing on it. (Not to mentioned he wished death on someone AGAIN in this thread lol)

You can’t make this s*** up.

Not Like Josuke

2y

🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

EyeKastHugeShadows

2y

The unfortunate thing about this discourse is that there's users that are simply against the idea of a Beyonce doing this, and she's not wrong to point this out, its a Beyonce album, but I feel you, unfortunately you might not get that here, to me I never got anything from an Eminem that a pac gave me, he captured all the things that make a rapper but he didn't capture the spirit of rap, he was always outside looking in,

these days rap is so diluted anyone can say anything and no one is really saying anything but back then, I commended Marshall for being a fan of great music, I'm giving beyonce that pass, we might not be living in the age of true musicianship anymore but this is a great moment regardless