It's actually the first time he's gone against a specific group though in such an intense, repetitive, obsessive, obvious way. I would like to think the reaction would be the same if he'd gone against Muslims like this.

I also think if anti-semitism is taken more seriously by western media it's not because Jews are so powerful or whatever. It's more to do with whiteness, the news pretty blatantly put more stock in white or white passing victims. It's especially obvious in coverage of foreign affairs. So I think that's more about the media (even the liberal media) being racist in terms of what it chooses to cover/care about than Jews being all-powerful.

I think a lot of people will still listen to his music and can't really take icon status away from him

But some of the corporate structure that supported him his whole career is going to be difficult/borderline impossible to get back.

If Ye comes out with an album in 6 months though, even independently that's still selling

Kanye is a pretty big deal at Adidas but I don't feel like he's made that much of an impact at Balenciaga unless I'm missing something?

Balenciaga biggest moments in pop culture or sales have nothing to do with Ye.

Even with Adidas Kanye may have brought hype back to them but they'd still be able to get great sales figures without him.

what were balenciaga biggest pop culture moments this past two years?

ye walked so Demna could run

Virgil’s dead. He can’t even laugh

lol isn't this what Ye said Obama did for him at one point

That's a part, but they've been getting big outside of Ye and Kim for sure

I mean I don't follow fashion closely to know exactly when things happened

But what I'm more talking about is Balenciaga being very culturally relevant for example it was being mentioned a fair bit in people's lyrics before there was the Ye association

I also just don't think it's widely known about with casuals. People associate Ye with Adidas in a way they don't with Balenciaga. Even the GAP thing felt like a bigger deal or a thing people were more aware of. Also like Adidas, GAP had obvious struggles they were turning to Ye to fix. I don't think that's the case with Balenciaga coming to Ye.

There was a segment of Addias' fanbase/demo that was falling that Ye fixed he's not done anything close to that for Balenciaga, he's a footnote in their history

What did 50 say

He’s laughing from heaven

Ye been cancelled pretty much now.

His next album will still do well but his fashion career is pretty much over.

Can't wait for the bars on this.

He’s not in heaven

Adidas is way more accessible than Balenciaga. This is such a bad take lmao, of course Ye attaching to the more accessible company to the general public is going to be a bigger impact than a luxury brand. But Ye has still given Balenciaga more press and exposure in urban markets and culture relevancy compared to other huge designer brands than they’ve probably ever had. Could you name me one iconic Balenciaga piece before Ye started rocking the croc boots?

TLDR: this effects them more than Ye. Ye was probably spending more in their stores than he was earning from them anyway

what exactly do you think their partnership achieved lol

also just because something isn't accessible doesn't mean it doesn't have massive mainstream impact. like Birkin bags rn are massively mainstream in terms of impact but very inaccessible

Literally the thing with Bernie logo probably did more for Balenciaga than any item they did with Ye. People just don't associate Ye and Balenciaga with each other that much imo. I'm sure lots of people who know Ye and also know Balenciaga don't know they even work together

You’re right of course, and to clarify I’m not saying it’s an unjustified position to take (and certainly from a business pov it is), I just don’t like the way they’ve done it - irrespective of what’s happened this month, ye (and by proxy via Kim) has done a huge amount to promote the brand, the relationship with Demna is a long and close one, so to cut ties this coldly (not even referring to him by name) sucks as a fan of them both

Nothing productive came from this partnership

balenciaga was making f***ing Bernie meme wear get a grip

I love this 💀

Went from s*** to more s***

Watch The Throne 2 never coming out

thank god, now everybody can stop wearing those ugly croc boots.

now he can start promoting and wearing his own s*** instead of the bland "all black balenci" fits