He kinda emulated Busta on that song wish he utilized that flow more often

Never thought I’d be this dude, but bars ain’t everything. Ka’s music isn’t accessible like Jay’s.

no one has really heard the song all of us by talib but if we're talking bars then

"i hit the schmoney dance on the coffin of a crooked cop" is up there in the all timers.

You really just have to listen to Act II to really understand this premise.

“We was livin' in the livin' room
Can’t wait for it to come, need to get it soon
Cousin said he gon’ get off a ki', better get in tune
By next weekend, could be eatin' with a bigger spoon
Sold raw, no more scrapin' the bottom
Brave the corner where ain't no takin' asylum
Greet all with aggression, assumin' they waitin' to rob him
Thought he was movin' solution, without equatin' the problem
When young in the flesh, hunger the best motivator
That’s word, get hurt out here if you don’t know the nomenclature
Shark slingers, only thing you couldn’t own was paper
Fam we bleed, ain't guaranteed stayin' home was safer
Masked bandit, I suggested it, what I flash demanded it
Pull solo missions, wishin' to get off mass transit
Lettin' s*** pass, that’s how you get your ass handed
All gaudy, thought he was fly, 'til he crash landed
Here cake exists only for those who take the risk
If the Lord offered, would you learn how, it take the fish?
No dandelions, I got handed irons to make a wish
Lived in hate, to the state was just another ape to frisk
Oh Was begotten and forgotten, covenant was rotten
Them days everything was grace, so we was plottin
Never cut my hand, f*** what Sam threw us out of guilt
We ain’t akh with that block of cheese and powdered milk
Graduated hard knock where there’s no diplomacy
hine, hope dimes pay attention and cops don’t notice me
After grace said, break bread, my friends ate
The cypress muddy, the cycle bloody 'til all my men straight”

That’s why they did they 1-2s with three .45s

Depression makes me sour, but it's still a feelin'
My human heart and all my senses say, "It's still appealin'"
I could be dead and gone, a brass band
The second line, I could be headin' home
And passersby may shed a tear after she read the stone

smh jay

Thread should have stayed in 2011

I’d personally argue it does, but if we talking “bar for bar,” its clearly Ka. And he’s been consistently releasing amazing albums since 2012.

Hell nah. Nigga had to bite Nas's whole rapping style to get buzz.

He's still dope though.

although hes lesser known
Cambatta would give jay a run for his money.

yeah totally man act 1 sounds so much like nas lmao

this too

Always felt like he got his rapping style from this song

Rakim has influenced everyone. Directly or indirectly.

It’s a beautiful f***ing album,even tho it’s unfinished. Jay Elect just needs more output before he can be given GOAT status.

I could never end a career if it never start

I hate how that album cover just looks like an ad for some men’s cocoa butter or some s***.

Yeah for sure but his flow and cadence are extremely similar to that particular song imo

Facts were written

Hov, Nas, Big, BT, Ka all honorable mentions

Tbh Jay E's early demo that leaked a lil while ago was ass

He got a lot better within a few years

He became a good magician.