thegreatdivine

12mo

Who is your fan cast as Batman?

mjpplus

12mo

My fan cast is already cast

Robert Pattinson

Nah fr tho if they don't go that route I kind of like Brandon Skelnar based off the look

thegreatdivine

12mo

As much as I like Battinson, I don't like that Matt completely erased his playboy persona. Matt didn't even lean as much into him being a detective as I'd have liked and so the character of Batman feels a bit wonky, even though i f*** with Robert Pattinson's overall portrayal. Batman is a great character because of his complexity. Yes, he's a rich, womanizing playboy but he's also a genius-level detective, trained in a handful of fighting styles and who is at peak physical conditioning. Removing any of those details from the character will always make it feel inadequate imo.

I just think that there are core elements to some of these comic book characters that should be canon. Superman should ALWAYS be a hopeful farm boy who wants to do good. That's core to who he is. That's why Synder's Superman never quite took off with the general public.

I feel like Bruce is able to get away with being Batman because he uses his playboy persona as a mask for his true nature, which is being a brooding, pessimistic Batman. You don't get one without the other.

thegreatdivine

12mo

As much as I like Battinson, I don't like that Matt completely erased his playboy persona. Matt didn't even lean as much into him being a detective as I'd have liked and so the character of Batman feels a bit wonky, even though i f*** with Robert Pattinson's overall portrayal. Batman is a great character because of his complexity. Yes, he's a rich, womanizing playboy but he's also a genius-level detective, trained in a handful of fighting styles and who is at peak physical conditioning. Removing any of those details from the character will always make it feel inadequate imo.

I just think that there are core elements to some of these comic book characters that should be canon. Superman should ALWAYS be a hopeful farm boy who wants to do good. That's core to who he is. That's why Synder's Superman never quite took off with the general public.

I feel like Bruce is able to get away with being Batman because he uses his playboy persona as a mask for his true nature, which is being a brooding, pessimistic Batman. You don't get one without the other.

relapsed bisexual

12mo

This mid cancelled yet?

Everest

12mo

1000% agree.

But i do think the groundwork for that stuff (which is also my fav aspect of batman) could've been set up in the first Reeves movie, and embraced in the second

in the first one we saw him reclusive and crashing out, in the second one hopefully we see him assuming the Wayne Enterprises CEO role in boardrooms, going to socialite parties in tuxedos, flirting with the Gotham High Society, and realising that becoming a public facing personality actually helps his secret life. The first one didn't do any of that, which is what could make the shift into that feel really cool.

Rob could easily pull that stuff off too

BlueDream

12mo

I’d say it’s too soon to judge whether or not Bruce ends up taking on the playboy persona. At the moment Bruce isn’t really trying to “be” Bruce Wayne, he’s just The Batman.

I’m sure we’ll see Bruce start refining his Bruce Wayne persona in the upcoming movies. And then he’ll start making more public appearances

BlueDream

12mo

I’d say it’s too soon to judge whether or not Bruce ends up taking on the playboy persona. At the moment Bruce isn’t really trying to “be” Bruce Wayne, he’s just The Batman.

I’m sure we’ll see Bruce start refining his Bruce Wayne persona in the upcoming movies. And then he’ll start making more public appearances

thegreatdivine

12mo

As much as I like Battinson, I don't like that Matt completely erased his playboy persona. Matt didn't even lean as much into him being a detective as I'd have liked and so the character of Batman feels a bit wonky, even though i f*** with Robert Pattinson's overall portrayal. Batman is a great character because of his complexity. Yes, he's a rich, womanizing playboy but he's also a genius-level detective, trained in a handful of fighting styles and who is at peak physical conditioning. Removing any of those details from the character will always make it feel inadequate imo.

I just think that there are core elements to some of these comic book characters that should be canon. Superman should ALWAYS be a hopeful farm boy who wants to do good. That's core to who he is. That's why Synder's Superman never quite took off with the general public.

I feel like Bruce is able to get away with being Batman because he uses his playboy persona as a mask for his true nature, which is being a brooding, pessimistic Batman. You don't get one without the other.

BRAVE

12mo

All of this viner. All of this. We need more traditional, multi-faceted Bruce next time. That’s what makes the dichotomy so compelling

Everest

12mo

Facts.

what they've done so far is like having a spiderman who doesn't even try do any social stuff, doesn't try to have a job, doesn't try to have relationships

Jammuh

12mo

So what happens in the event that the DCU Batman movie(s) aren't as well received as The Epic Crime Saga or even vice versa

One will have to suffer no? How is that good for either side? Or is the only expectation that both will be good? That leaves no room for error

CC @mjpplus

Jammuh

12mo

So what happens in the event that the DCU Batman movie(s) aren't as well received as The Epic Crime Saga or even vice versa

One will have to suffer no? How is that good for either side? Or is the only expectation that both will be good? That leaves no room for error

CC @mjpplus

TheFader

12mo

We’ve never really gotten a BAD Batman film/live-action adaptation other than Batman & Robin, which is sort of the sole exception.

The two Tim Burton films were great, the Kilmer one was okay, Nolan trilogy speaks for itself, Batfleck was solid but underutilized, Battinson has been perfect so far… if The Brave & the Bold is a real thing, I can’t really see a world where a universe with Gunn at the helm drops the ball. Batman is sort of a layup comic book character to adapt to live-action.

The only question is how different it will be tonally from the Reeves films and if a more lighthearted/fantastical Batman is something modern audiences are willing to accept.

AshTheRobot

12mo

I think these movies will be so different that they won't effect each other much

The Synopsis Gunn gave
"The film explores members of the "Bat-Family", including introducing Bruce Wayne / Batman's son Damian Wayne as a version of Robin. Gunn said the film would be a "strange father and son story" about Batman and Robin."

This movie is likely going to be more of a BatFamily movie with Batman, Robin, Nightwing, Batgirl, etc. and not a straight up "Batman" movie. That alone will give it a different tone and feel.
Movie will likely be more family friendly, and delve into the more fantastical side of Batman's mythos. Villains like Poison Ivy, Freeze, Killer Croc etc.
Can see this one being more appealing to children. will even like have entire toylines inspired by it.

Where as Reeve's Batverse will continue being a dark crime drama

Jammuh

12mo

So what happens in the event that the DCU Batman movie(s) aren't as well received as The Epic Crime Saga or even vice versa

One will have to suffer no? How is that good for either side? Or is the only expectation that both will be good? That leaves no room for error

CC @mjpplus