within the Western sphere they have a habit with neutering the metaphysical aspects of just about anything because they’re obsessed with things being backed by empirical proof or being “rational”

so they’ll just take the generic “go with the flow, focus on yourself, life is pain but endure it” parts of whatever system it might be while completely ignoring the metaphysical portions of it lmao

funny s*** tbh, it reduces most of these philosophies to things you could get out of a self help book or a talk with a parental figure/therapist, it’s endearing really

Imma need y’all to stop commenting if you haven’t actually read meditations

You desire to LIVE "according to Nature"? Oh, you noble Stoics, what fraud of words! Imagine to yourselves a being like Nature, boundlessly extravagant, boundlessly indifferent, without purpose or consideration, without pity or justice, at once fruitful and barren and uncertain: imagine to yourselves INDIFFERENCE as a power—how COULD you live in accordance with such indifference? To live—is not that just endeavouring to be otherwise than this Nature? Is not living valuing, preferring, being unjust, being limited, endeavouring to be different? And granted that your imperative, "living according to Nature," means actually the same as "living according to life"—how could you do DIFFERENTLY? Why should you make a principle out of what you yourselves are, and must be? In reality, however, it is quite otherwise with you: while you pretend to read with rapture the canon of your law in Nature, you want something quite the contrary, you extraordinary stage-players and self-deluders! In your pride you wish to dictate your morals and ideals to Nature, to Nature herself, and to incorporate them therein; you insist that it shall be Nature "according to the Stoa," and would like everything to be made after your own image, as a vast, eternal glorification and generalism of Stoicism! With all your love for truth, you have forced yourselves so long, so persistently, and with such hypnotic rigidity to see Nature FALSELY, that is to say, Stoically, that you are no longer able to see it otherwise—and to crown all, some unfathomable superciliousness gives you the Bedlamite hope that BECAUSE you are able to tyrannize over yourselves—Stoicism is self-tyranny—Nature will also allow herself to be tyrannized over: is not the Stoic a PART of Nature?... But this is an old and everlasting story: what happened in old times with the Stoics still happens today, as soon as ever a philosophy begins to believe in itself. It always creates the world in its own image; it cannot do otherwise; philosophy is this tyrannical impulse itself, the most spiritual Will to Power, the will to "creation of the world," the will to the causa prima.

Honestly true
Most people would be better off just converting to Islam and praying 5 times a day, they'd feel better lol

How bout you read more philosophy than just meditations n get back to us lol

is this Nietszche?

At least watch the vid before s***ting on it

the gentrification of philosophy

I hope this makes you feel better about yourself. You can have this moment of superiority if it helps you sleep at night

i was just saying most of these existential philosophies are profoundly limp-wristed compared to the richness that can be found in most of the major religions or spiritual systems lmao

Hey man don’t hate on @op’s gimmick.

He just loves telling everyone else how much better he is than you.

U realize philosophy is 3000+ years of people arguing over ideas right
If you don't want to argue then stop trying to talk about philosophy, debate and discourse is kinda the whole f***ing point

Bring back ancient Indian philosophy where the loser of the public debate would have to commit honorable suicide

🤝

So we’re debating now? What are we debating exactly?

💀 get the f*** on

Right. Carry on

Coming from the nigga who be on loser forums and SMOKES

I've seen it 💀💀 u know Aurelius had an addiction to opium wine right? He wrote meditations high as f***

that’s why i’m Adorno pilled

Yeeeee bro had to cook somehow

He can’t read!!!! Ableist f***!!

I started with the Bible then moved to Meditations and stoicism. For me it’s not about the philosophy it’s about wisdom. Sorry I am not trying to be an intellectual just trying to navigate life with more sense.

Now I am reading berserk