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  • Feb 16, 2020
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    Dont really want to talk to people who instantly call other responses stupid lol

  • Feb 16, 2020
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    Synopsis

    This is such a stupid stance lol

    1. You aren't paying for other people's loans. The program is paid for by a tax on wall street speculation. It's a financial transactions tax. It doesn't add any new taxes for you.

    2. We are told growing up our entire lives that we need to go to college to be successful, that its the best way to get a new job. We are literally socialized to believed that going to a university for four years will get us our desired career. No longer does a high school education cut it, and the cost of attending university has skyrocketed. It's not about people not knowing how to invest money or some s*** lmao. It's about the fact the american people were deceived.

    What you are saying is you want people to suffer under the oppressive burden of a debt they may never pay back, without a***yzing any of the factors that may have caused them to take out loans in the first place.

    1. Okay cool I would still rather put that money into much more important places

    2. I was raised by a family who taught me you didnt have to go to college if you didnt want to. Many teachers said it wasnt necessary. I dont think people who made poor financial decisions should get a free pass and have all their money forgotten for a service they already received (professors were paid, etc) by taking money away from other people. It was their decision to choose a degree that they could have gotten the job they wanted without the degree in the first place.

  • Feb 16, 2020
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    Synopsis

    And ffs, stop calling it free college. It'll be free at the point of service, just like K-12 is.

    ? What are you even talking about K to 12 is free lol

  • Feb 16, 2020
    hashtagtravis

    ? What are you even talking about K to 12 is free lol

    Do you think schools just operate freely?

  • Feb 16, 2020
    hashtagtravis

    1. Okay cool I would still rather put that money into much more important places

    2. I was raised by a family who taught me you didnt have to go to college if you didnt want to. Many teachers said it wasnt necessary. I dont think people who made poor financial decisions should get a free pass and have all their money forgotten for a service they already received (professors were paid, etc) by taking money away from other people. It was their decision to choose a degree that they could have gotten the job they wanted without the degree in the first place.

    Why do you think this is a choice lmao? What rules are you operating by where if we put x amount of money into one area, we can't put money anywhere else?

    And cool, that's your reality. It's not reality for many others. The system sets us up to believe that college is a necessity, and the way the global economy is working nowadays it almost is a necessity if you want to be competitive for jobs. You're operating under this reality where you think they made a poor financial decision but like I said, you aren't actually a***yzing anything. You're saying "they went to college, took out a loan, now they should pay it back" but you aren't looking at any factors that led to that process. You simply choose to believe that because you did x y and z that that will be everyone's reality. But it's not. So you can either take an elitist point of view, or you can align yourself with what's best for the people.

  • Feb 16, 2020
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    hashtagtravis

    I dont think the american economy can afford to just forgive all that debt

    Besides that I also believe people shouldn't have to pay for other people's loans that they couldn't pay back

    I'm currently 70k in student debt (no interest yet) but have been working for my whole life and plan on paying it off

    People need to learn to not invest money into a program that wont provide them a job and should have to pay their loans back

    The American economy can most certainly afford it

    It’s actually criminal y’all believe 700 billion towards the military is no big deal, A-OK. But a FRACTION of that to help the actual American people? Nah, too much. That line of thinking is ridiculous.

    And I’m sorry to say, but I don’t care at all if you personally worked your ass off to pay those loans. They’re an inconvenient anchor on the American populaces’ wallets, and a lot of people take out those loans before they’re old enough to even understand the type of commitment they’re making (18 year olds fresh out of high school shouldn’t be allowed to immediately take on thousands in debt). Not only that, most jobs don’t pay enough to live and also pay off loans in any meaningful way. It shouldn’t be necessary for you to work so hard to pay off loans, but the cost of living has long outpaced wages, which is the real problem but it’s been going for so long you actually think it’s okay. It isn’t.

  • Feb 16, 2020
    hashtagtravis

    Dont really want to talk to people who instantly call other responses stupid lol

    You’re better off ignoring Synopsis

  • Feb 16, 2020
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    hashtagtravis

    1. Okay cool I would still rather put that money into much more important places

    2. I was raised by a family who taught me you didnt have to go to college if you didnt want to. Many teachers said it wasnt necessary. I dont think people who made poor financial decisions should get a free pass and have all their money forgotten for a service they already received (professors were paid, etc) by taking money away from other people. It was their decision to choose a degree that they could have gotten the job they wanted without the degree in the first place.

    Also, it doesn’t really matter where you “want” the money to go. Do you know how much we already pay in taxes? Most of that is squandered on military adventurism, yet no complaints about that. The roads here in some parts of New Jersey look like Baghdad and infrastructure all over the country is old and falling apart. Where is the tax money going?

  • Feb 16, 2020
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    hashtagtravis

    Dont really want to talk to people who instantly call other responses stupid lol

    Then dont be stupid

  • Feb 16, 2020
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    Negroknight

    The American economy can most certainly afford it

    It’s actually criminal y’all believe 700 billion towards the military is no big deal, A-OK. But a FRACTION of that to help the actual American people? Nah, too much. That line of thinking is ridiculous.

    And I’m sorry to say, but I don’t care at all if you personally worked your ass off to pay those loans. They’re an inconvenient anchor on the American populaces’ wallets, and a lot of people take out those loans before they’re old enough to even understand the type of commitment they’re making (18 year olds fresh out of high school shouldn’t be allowed to immediately take on thousands in debt). Not only that, most jobs don’t pay enough to live and also pay off loans in any meaningful way. It shouldn’t be necessary for you to work so hard to pay off loans, but the cost of living has long outpaced wages, which is the real problem but it’s been going for so long you actually think it’s okay. It isn’t.

    Here's where I can agree with you, I do believe that military spending is

    A) extremely unoptomized and looking at some of the reports theres definitely corruption/faked spending (look up spending on firewood"

    B) in general too much spending on military

    To be honest I'm from canada so I'm glad we dont spend nearly as much on the military

    If we were to discuss cutting the military budget and doing something to solve the student loan debt crisis, here's what I would do

    I would subsidize educatuon with higher employment rates based on the individuals income taxes/earnings (ex Lower middle class would have a much more inexpensive education compared to the upper middle/upper class

    In addition I would limit the amount of interest banks could put on student loans (currently can be jacked out of control)

    And it's fine you dont really care about my path it's just in an optimal world others would do what they can to solve their problems not rely on the government to pay for everything but we aren't in an optimal world so some subsidization is required especially those who are financially worse off

  • Feb 16, 2020
    Negroknight

    Also, it doesn’t really matter where you “want” the money to go. Do you know how much we already pay in taxes? Most of that is squandered on military adventurism, yet no complaints about that. The roads here in some parts of New Jersey look like Baghdad and infrastructure all over the country is old and falling apart. Where is the tax money going?

    When I was referring to where I want it to go coincides with your point less towards miliatary and more towards social program proven to have some benefit ( many have proved to help where I am from )

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    Synopsis

    Then dont be stupid

    The leader of a revolution.

  • Feb 16, 2020
    hashtagtravis

    Here's where I can agree with you, I do believe that military spending is

    A) extremely unoptomized and looking at some of the reports theres definitely corruption/faked spending (look up spending on firewood"

    B) in general too much spending on military

    To be honest I'm from canada so I'm glad we dont spend nearly as much on the military

    If we were to discuss cutting the military budget and doing something to solve the student loan debt crisis, here's what I would do

    I would subsidize educatuon with higher employment rates based on the individuals income taxes/earnings (ex Lower middle class would have a much more inexpensive education compared to the upper middle/upper class

    In addition I would limit the amount of interest banks could put on student loans (currently can be jacked out of control)

    And it's fine you dont really care about my path it's just in an optimal world others would do what they can to solve their problems not rely on the government to pay for everything but we aren't in an optimal world so some subsidization is required especially those who are financially worse off

    Good post fam.

    To add, the Pentagon literally came out and said they “lost” TRILLIONS of dollars

    How the f*** do you lose that amount of money and have the gall to tell people they can’t have free college or healthcare???
    Whenever a post about how we’re gonna fund this or that is made I can’t help but dismiss it because America is very, very far from broke. We give our politicians so much money they think it’s actually theirs and don’t think at all to use it to help their constituents.

  • Feb 16, 2020
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    Benito Mussolini

    The leader of a revolution.

    The alt left revolution lol

  • Feb 16, 2020
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    hashtagtravis

    Here's where I can agree with you, I do believe that military spending is

    A) extremely unoptomized and looking at some of the reports theres definitely corruption/faked spending (look up spending on firewood"

    B) in general too much spending on military

    To be honest I'm from canada so I'm glad we dont spend nearly as much on the military

    If we were to discuss cutting the military budget and doing something to solve the student loan debt crisis, here's what I would do

    I would subsidize educatuon with higher employment rates based on the individuals income taxes/earnings (ex Lower middle class would have a much more inexpensive education compared to the upper middle/upper class

    In addition I would limit the amount of interest banks could put on student loans (currently can be jacked out of control)

    And it's fine you dont really care about my path it's just in an optimal world others would do what they can to solve their problems not rely on the government to pay for everything but we aren't in an optimal world so some subsidization is required especially those who are financially worse off

    Subsidies based on income are easy to game and wouldn’t solve anything. College should be free, the only requirement being if you’re smart enough to be there (examinations and whatnot).

  • Feb 16, 2020
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    Negroknight

    Subsidies based on income are easy to game and wouldn’t solve anything. College should be free, the only requirement being if you’re smart enough to be there (examinations and whatnot).

    I dont really know what the benefit to having free art school is

  • Feb 16, 2020

    I think degrees should be priced more based on the amount of income you should be able to pay your schooling off with 3 to 4 years post school in addition to subsidies for those with low income and supplemental scholarships should bring the cost down to those who actually need it / entering degrees with high employment rates

  • Feb 16, 2020

    if democrats stop talking about guns they'll never lose another election again. bernie supporters are the group that realistically need guns the most, all this anti-gun s*** aint it. redneck cacs will never get rid of their guns so when they get pissed about a "communist" and take their rascal scooters to the streets the left needs to be ready lest they get curbed by a bunch of LARPers with gats

  • Feb 16, 2020

    In addition free college with the current state of extremely bloated administration doesnt make sense; they need more regulation on universities to display their costs and how they price classes based on it

  • Feb 16, 2020
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    hashtagtravis

    I dont really know what the benefit to having free art school is

    Me neither; however, the point here is that your money is already being wildly squandered on things that not only don’t benefit you, but potentially put you in danger. Why is art college where you draw the line?

  • Feb 16, 2020
    Negroknight

    Me neither; however, the point here is that your money is already being wildly squandered on things that not only don’t benefit you, but potentially put you in danger. Why is art college where you draw the line?

    It isn't necessarily where I draw the line it was just an extreme example

    There are extremely specialized fields in science which people go to school for and cant get employed which is another example of what I wouldn't subsidize

    I would much rather see free health care in america before free college if were discussing where money is dangerously spent and should be redirected to

  • Feb 16, 2020

    His record on gun control is kind of spotty but i get that he comes from vermont where they are kinda big on guns

    still would like to see him take more of a stance against them

  • Feb 16, 2020

    nuclear energy

  • Feb 17, 2020
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    I support everything because he's like the most popular ethical politician this country has either ever seen or seen in a long ass time.

  • Feb 17, 2020
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    Astronaut

    I wish he was passionate about doing more for POC, even going so far as to unapologetically say YES to reparations.

    The way this got skipped over for everyone to argue some bullshit.

    THIS + a bunch of other s***. Dude is an op. The candidate that actually gave a s*** got zero support.