Any Greninja cant stack up really it's only "ashes Greninja" that does which is such a bizarre mon to have

What's the issue with venasaur though? I like them sometimes but usually would prefer a torterra (venasaur if with swampert, torterra if no swampert)

noctowl gang rise up..

Pikachu

Swampert line highest BST of all the starters, Skelleridge 2nd place, them two are monsters, they can solo their whole games respectively

Comp wise Greninja, Blaziken, and Cinderace were the most busted of the starters they all hit uber at one point

Lastly VGC, Incineroar won championships 3 consecutive years and no starter comes close to how overly represented that thing was for 3 straight years

Insane representation, in every team for 3 years outside of 4 teams in that entire period

Dam ill take the L

If we’re basing it on the games then Incineroar is the greatest

He’s cool just not my fav grass starter

no

Breloom wins! (2-3)

Ludicolo

Arcanine

Look up his usage rate at VGC and the amount of times he was on a championship winning team. Unless you’re just talking about In game then yeah there’s better starters.

with you im joking lol I am well aware the usage of incineroar and raw power with all the buffs technically puts him above swampert competitively, which is really the only objective way to compare these mons. I like water/ground as typing so much more and find better use with it like trick room, but thats pretty specific while incineroar is a speedy fighting type

if we start arguing over usage in the actual games, usefulness in nuzlockes, or really most romhacks without re-balancing of stats/changing learn/movesets/etc then we can get real opinionated over swampert vs incineroar but thats not really enough

I am bitter inceneroar is in smash though, but at least its fun to play as

Arcanine wins! (0-4)

Torkoal

Ursaring

I have pulled so many bloodmoon urasing cards I never want to see this mf again

This facts. Honestly i kind of hate single type pokemon i want every type covered as much

Nigga u do even like pokemon

Greninja and froakie are legit one of the most iconic starters ngl

nigga likes girls that have pokemon plushies in their rooms and thats abt it

Torterra goated af but bulbasaur line slaps heavy on the games (and fangames)

Bulky and special attacker he doesnt go wrong

I confused froakie’s 3rd evo with the latest gen’s starter

This was announced yesterday...

Dont let echi see it

Sobble so ass

...... man