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  • Jul 26, 2022
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    @HeyFella your boys having a good time

    don't know the first song but the other two are nice renditions

  • Jul 27, 2022
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    Elric

    @HeyFella your boys having a good time

    don't know the first song but the other two are nice renditions

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUmJ_vCmXHM

    Wouldn’t say they’re my boys. I like their one album. I was more so hyping up The Alan Bown.

  • Jul 27, 2022
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    Fella

    Wouldn’t say they’re my boys. I like their one album. I was more so hyping up The Alan Bown.

    right nevermind I'm thinking of the smoke aren't I

  • Jul 27, 2022
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    Elric

    right nevermind I'm thinking of the smoke aren't I

    Yeah The Smoke are my boys

  • Jul 27, 2022
    Fella

    Yeah The Smoke are my boys

    Cauldron is one thing we've agreed on in the last month

  • rvi 🦜
    Jul 27, 2022
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    Elric

    right nevermind I'm thinking of the smoke aren't I

    Listening to Safe as Milk stereo for the first time in a few years rn

  • Jul 27, 2022
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    rvi

    Listening to Safe as Milk stereo for the first time in a few years rn

    Great album. Easy to just throw on and vibe out.

  • Jul 27, 2022
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    rvi

    Listening to Safe as Milk stereo for the first time in a few years rn

    Is it guilty of that fold over center channel vocal thing you were talking about? Love the way the theremin pans on Electricity and Beefheart uses one of his mid vocal registers on the left channel and then his ungodly low register on the right channel going back and forth with himself

  • Jul 27, 2022
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    Fella

    Great album. Easy to just throw on and vibe out.

    Electricity go so hard you can break your neck if you're trying to keep up

  • Jul 27, 2022
    rvi

    Listening to Safe as Milk stereo for the first time in a few years rn

    Listening to the mono for the first time in years right off the bat I noticed it's harder to hear Cooders slide guitar which used to be very clear on the left channel

  • Jul 27, 2022
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    Zig Zag and Call On Me also a little muddy

  • Jul 27, 2022

    Dropout Boogie is a shade too fast and loses some of its menacing scuzzy swagger. Buzzsaw guitars less potent.

  • Jul 27, 2022
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    Elric

    Electricity go so hard you can break your neck if you're trying to keep up

    Definitely the highlight. It’s an awesome energetic follow up to the surprisingly beautifully slow I’m Glad.

  • rvi 🦜
    Jul 27, 2022
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    Elric

    Is it guilty of that fold over center channel vocal thing you were talking about? Love the way the theremin pans on Electricity and Beefheart uses one of his mid vocal registers on the left channel and then his ungodly low register on the right channel going back and forth with himself

    yeah i think if the vocals were more centered it might overtake the mono for me because of clarity of guitars. probably one where i could pick winners of both versions

    ive also found that the extreme separation bothers me less when im already familiar with the album. but i guess years ago I originally found the hard panned vocals so distracting i just deleted the stereo entirely

  • Jul 27, 2022
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    rvi

    yeah i think if the vocals were more centered it might overtake the mono for me because of clarity of guitars. probably one where i could pick winners of both versions

    ive also found that the extreme separation bothers me less when im already familiar with the album. but i guess years ago I originally found the hard panned vocals so distracting i just deleted the stereo entirely

    Thank god you always disagree so heavily on this I thought I was starting to lose it

  • Jul 27, 2022
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    A lot of my first listens are in a car so I don’t think I notice a lot of these stereo and mono differences that well.

  • rvi 🦜
    Jul 27, 2022
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    Elric

    Thank god you always disagree so heavily on this I thought I was starting to lose it

    jazz might have also helped me get a tad more accustomed to hard panned rhythm sections tbh. still bothers me but that part isnt a total dealbreaker for this safe as milk mix

    mono almost always has the slightly romantic illogical aspect of it just sounding "older" though for rock/pop

  • Jul 27, 2022
    Fella

    Definitely the highlight. It’s an awesome energetic follow up to the surprisingly beautifully slow I’m Glad.

    Just when you think I'm Glad is gonna stay in the traditional doo woo ballad format Beef goes super Saiyan on the bridge

    "Pleeeeeeeease come back and let the...... SUUUUUUUUUUN shine through"

  • Jul 27, 2022
    Fella

    A lot of my first listens are in a car so I don’t think I notice a lot of these stereo and mono differences that well.

    That was me and my early twenties which might be part of the reason I didn't care for a long time either

  • Jul 27, 2022
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    rvi

    jazz might have also helped me get a tad more accustomed to hard panned rhythm sections tbh. still bothers me but that part isnt a total dealbreaker for this safe as milk mix

    mono almost always has the slightly romantic illogical aspect of it just sounding "older" though for rock/pop

    Agreed it definitely sounds more clean and modern on stereo. I really want to hear every nuance of these guitars and beefheart's voice probably the most potent rock and roll singer there was with infinite detail to his performances

  • rvi 🦜
    Jul 27, 2022
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    Elric

    Agreed it definitely sounds more clean and modern on stereo. I really want to hear every nuance of these guitars and beefheart's voice probably the most potent rock and roll singer there was with infinite detail to his performances

    true but sometimes you want that voice in the middle instead of crammed in one ear. definitely differs a lot with headphones vs speakers though (i was just listening on headphones rn)

  • rvi 🦜
    Jul 27, 2022

    feel like mono also needs some more raw volume power to appreciate a few of these things. like if you switch back and forth mono vs stereo itll sound neutered in mono but if you crank the mono and sit with it it can be powerful af

  • Jul 27, 2022
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    rvi

    true but sometimes you want that voice in the middle instead of crammed in one ear. definitely differs a lot with headphones vs speakers though (i was just listening on headphones rn)

    Yeah I'm on headphones right now and on stereo some of the vocals are still centered

  • rvi 🦜
    Jul 27, 2022
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    Elric

    Yeah I'm on headphones right now and on stereo some of the vocals are still centered

    also do you know which version of the mono you have? apparently up to a certain recent point all the mono reissues were just the inferior fold-down

  • Jul 27, 2022
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    rvi

    also do you know which version of the mono you have? apparently up to a certain recent point all the mono reissues were just the inferior fold-down

    Sundazed LP 5460 2013